• jet@hackertalks.com
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    8 months ago

    Yes there is FUD around signal. But they are not offering any better solutions.

    Signal has some structural issues, and isn’t a good solution for all threat models (i.e. if your a government who doesn’t fully trust the USA, then signal isn’t for you)

    Any conversation that doesn’t talk about briar, simplex, etc is deeply flawed since only they attempt to address the fundamental structural issues with signal.

    Don’t use that centralized chat service, use THIS centralized chat service - is just FUD… and isn’t a helpful conversation.

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      8 months ago

      Don’t use a centralized chat service. Use a decentralized chat service. XMPP uses the same encryption for it’s e2e encryption, is decentralized, and super light weight for both the server and the client.

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        8 months ago

        And “super easy” to use. To get your friend onto it, first you have to host a server, then they have to install a client with an interface from the 90s, activate the XEPs for encryption on their client and ensure the server supports it too, exchange usernames, create an encrypted connection and exchange random codes over another medium to ensure you’re talking to the right person.

        NOW you can start chatting with the other person and hope the server doesn’t crash. ECPC

        Anti Commercial-AI license

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              8 months ago

              One account, multiple devices logging into it (in my use case, personal laptop, work laptop, two phones).

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          7 months ago

          Or, you can skip the unhinged rant, use monocles or dino, and a public server.

          Also, hosting a server is much simpler than something like matrix. You can host an xmpp server on a pi and that is more than enough. Or, just use a public server.

          So difficult.

          I like how you included steps that absolutely aren’t required and haven’t been for like a decade to make your statement more hyperbolic.

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      8 months ago

      if your a government who doesn’t fully trust the USA, then signal isn’t for you

      how? i tought it was e2ee and open source?