I honestly can’t tell if this one is just lemmy.world’s moderation being shit as usual, or if the fact that the stories getting removed are Russian is actually relevant.

Here are two stories of mine that have been removed from !nottheonion@lemmy.world for being “not onion-y”:

  • Trump says Russia has shown willingness for peace by not taking over all of Ukraine, calls it ‘pretty big concession’
  • Moscow hit by massive drone raid for second night ahead of Putin’s Victory Day parade

Stories that are fine, on the other hand?

  • “Can ChatGPT experience joy or suffering? Does Gemini deserve human rights?” our tech columnist asks. “Many A.I. experts I know would say no, not yet, not even close. But I was intrigued.”
  • ‘Trump 2028’ apparel on sale at the Trump Organization’s online store
  • Trump tariffs: US president says foreign movies to be hit with 100% levies

I sort of suspect that what’s going on here is a combination of genuine stupidity on the part of the users (having trouble making the leap between “Victory Day” and “Moscow hit by massive drone raid”), plus passivity on the part of the mods (one possibility is that it got reported because of salty pro-Russian people, which the objectively not-oniony stories did not, and the mod just blindly obeys whatever reports say).

Regardless. Moderation on lemmy.world is a pile.

    • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOP
      67·
      9 days ago

      Sounds pretty legit to me. They posted a well-sourced story, asked for reasons why it was fake when people accused it of being fake, and a whole bunch of people came in the comments to yell unrelated wild claims including the bullshit about the “unicorn lair” story being Western propaganda.

      I’m not sure if I would have banned people for doing all that, but I get it if someone wants to. I didn’t see anything in there that was a coherent argument that anything about the story was fake.

        • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOP
          2·
          2 days ago

          You didn’t answer, but @Skua@kbin.earth just figured out what the image was from. It’s a photo of a page from a textbook showing an undated and heavily edited composite view of the earth, of unknown accuracy from unknown sources. Sterling.

          I have 0 idea that this will change your mind, since you already know you’re right, and any contrary information is some kind of offense against you instead of just someone trying to talk sense and logic. All conversations are zero-sum. Loyalty is more important than truth. And so on. Clearly.

          Have a good one

        • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOP
          7·
          9 days ago

          Here is a different photo of the Korean peninsula from space: https://imgur.com/a/PSIKyuK - imgur.artemislena.eu - rimgo.projectsegfau.lt - imgin.voidnet.tech

          What is the source of this image? I have never seen images from space that have those solid patches of hundreds of square km that are just full-bright patches of uninterrupted brightness. Are you saying that all non-doctored images of North Korea show it as the same as South Korea, as it is in this one?

          Also why is there a big specular spot on the left side of the image? What am I looking at here?

          Here is Spain in darkness seen from space: https://universemagazine.com/en/blackout-in-spain-a-view-from-space/

          Yes, during a blackout. What’s your point here?

          Are you saying that North Korea was suffering a blackout when the images I showed were taken?

          • Skua@kbin.earth
            3·
            3 days ago

            The image appears to be a cropped photo of pages 46 and 47 of Vishaan Chakrabarti’s A country of cities : a manifesto for an urban America. The image is captioned “Development on Planet Earth: Humans directly influence 83% of the earth’s land area” and does not appear to claim to be a satellite photo. By definition it can’t be an unedited satellite photo since it’s an equirectangular map of the entire world. The specular on the left is presumably due to it being a photo someone took of a physical copy of the book

            https://archive.org/details/countryofcitiesm0000chak/page/46/mode/2up?q=development

          • LWD@lemm.ee
            32·
            8 days ago

            I think frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml’s point is nothing but apologetics. I looked at the post they linked to, which helpfully highlights dog piling that was initiated by a couple pro-authoritarian communities:

            cross-posted to:

            According to the people doing the brigading, the article is only wrong because it was written by sources that are too Western for their nationalist liking.

            • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOP
              2·
              3 days ago

              You didn’t answer, but @Skua@kbin.earth just figured out what the image was from. It’s a photo of a page from a textbook showing an undated and heavily edited photo of a textbook. Sterling.

              I have 0 idea that this will change your mind, since you already know you’re right, and any contrary information is some kind of offense against you instead of just someone trying to talk sense and logic. All conversations are zero-sum. Loyalty is more important than truth. And so on. Clearly.

              Have a good one

            • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.catOP
              52·
              8 days ago

              I mean pretty clearly lol. “Your images are doctored! Here’s an undoctored image!” What this random thing that for all I know is a film-camera picture of a fancy globe at the planetarium, that clearly has its lighting all jacked up, with no attribution and no explanation of even what the hell we’re looking at? “(silence)”

              You can tell they don’t get much experience talking with dissenting opinions or trying to be persuasive to undecided people. Which is, of course, the point of how their communities get moderated the way that they do, to preserve that.