• SatyrSack@feddit.org
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    How so? On Lemmy, at least, they are absolutely not private. It is just a way for two users to communicate without cluttering up a thread or something. Not a way to communicate in secret.

    EDIT: Oh, I missed the joke. DM = Dick Move. Woosh

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      It’s private in the sense that the DMs were made between 2 people. They are public in the sense that the admins of the instance(s) can read the DMs. Just like admins of any server can read anything that’s not encrypted at source.

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        4 months ago

        so… only admins can read the mail but the counterparty can’t disclose their own mail?

        wtf sort of logic does this rely on

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          No. Admins can read any mail. And everyone has access to their own mail?! And I mean everyone can disclose anything in their posession. It’s just not allowed and unethical. Though in most cases you’re allowed to publish what you wrote yourself. You just may not publish other people’s secrets or info publicly.

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            Almost everything you said isn’t true. Point to the rule that says someone can’t disclose a DM they were part of? Unethical? Sure.

            And I mean everyone can disclose anything in their posession.

            It’s just not allowed

            Make up your mind.

            Also Drag is a troll. Has suggested that several people commit suicide. Drag doesn’t get a pass. Drag is a piece of shit. Don’t be Drag.

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              Not sure where you live, and I don’t know much about US law, but for me, it’s §203 and §206 StGB. Get’s you either fined, or up to a maximum of 1 or 5 years in jail. And especially §206 is super clear and specifically mentions electronic letters. I can assure you, I’m 100% correct on that.

              • _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                It depends on the state. My state is a one party state, meaning any person that is party to a private conversation can legally reveal everything in it to the public.

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                  Yeah, I figured we’d need to track the criminal down to a specific contry and state and then ask a lawyer to make sure. We’re super strict here. If someone uses the voice recorder app or takes a video with sound in a private conversation, that’s already a serious thing. Of course similar restrictions apply to phone calls, letters and electronic conversation.

                  Reading US law isn’t easy for me, I mean there’s always a lot involved and then there are laws on two or three levels plus exemptions and additional rules… I wonder if such a freedom in a one party state applies to people like whistleblowers and other unruly people as well…

                  • _cryptagion [he/him]@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                    On paper, whistleblowers have federal protection from prosecution. In reality, however, if you blow the whistle on a rich person, a corporation, or the government, the government will go out of its way to punish you and make an example. See Edward Snowden, who is still wanted by the government, despite having revealed the government was engaged in what was then highly illegal espionage against their own citizens. The government responded by making that invasion of privacy legal.