The Kremlin has long sought to sow chaos using ‘information confrontation’. That job just got a lot easier

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    It’s not all of them, but it’s enough to influence idiots.

    Like people seriously underestimate Russian disinfo and cyber warfare.

    You’ll find Russians absolutely fucking everywhere.

    People exactly like Davel.

    I had a similar moron on Ireland discord claim he’s native born Irish, I taunted him to voice channel and when he spoke it was a very heavy Russian accent, and bro didn’t even know what a limerick is.

    It’s beyond easy to catch poorly educated Ruskis playing westerners if you keep any wits about you.

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      I meant it’s not limited to lemmy.ml.

      And yeah, it’s pretty easy to tell disinfo most of the time if you prod a little.

      I got banned from some .ml community because I had the audacity to suggest that maybe Russia isn’t the best place in the world for individual privacy, but I think the mod was from another instance altogether. I honestly can’t remember the details, but it was pretty clear a few steps into the discussion that they were at least a Russian apologist if not full-on spreading disinfo intentionally, so I baited them to push the mod button. And they did. I could have disengaged, but I don’t want to be part of a community where even mild criticism of a nation isn’t allowed.

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      Like people seriously underestimate Russian disinfo and cyber warfare.

      You’ll find Russians absolutely fucking everywhere.

      If you see russians everywhere you are probably underestimating american disinfo and cyber warfare. USA has the most powerful and technological advanced army in the world and they spend 10 times more in war than russia. For every russian agent you see expect there to be at last 1 american.

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        Yes hello.

        I was waiting for one of you to turn up.

        Don’t think I be forgotten your nickname.

        Nice strawmanning, but “on every platform” =/= “everywhere.”

        Thanks for the case in point, comrade!

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          Believe what you want i’m simply pointing out the obvious, if you only see russia propaganda around and none from the west ask yourself a question.

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            Ask a question… like; would you mind confirming Putin is a warcriminal and a sad bald bastard?

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              I confirm he’s a warcriminal. trump, putin, zelenskyy, macron and pretty much all rulers are corrupted pigs with blood on their hands, don’t you agree?

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                See, this is exactly what you do. You pretend to admit to it, but only in a comment where you say “oh yeah, Putin is a warcriminal IF everyone else is as well”. That’s not admitting to his criminality, that’s you trying to be “smart.”

                It’s genuinely like arguing a twelve-year old school boy. Worse, honestly. I talked to some tweeners today on the bus and they made better arguments than you do when they defended vaping on the bus. FFS.

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                  I just confirmed that putin is a warcriminal and you are trying to prove that i didn’t…

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                    So you admit he’s a warcriminal because of the crimes on humanity he’s guilty of, which Zelensky is not? You’re not taking a side.

                    I don’t think you’re a state actor, you’re clearly not a professional in anything. But like… even if I did, do you think I’m actually trying to say that Russian disinfo wouldn’t be able to lie?

                    Now you’re just doing the very same “oh I already admitted to that” thing, because you pretend like saying “all world leaders are bad” means the same thing as admitting to Putin’s crimes.

                    You avoid being directly unpatriotic, because you think you can outsmart me. It’s like watching a toddler hide behind some curtains, not realising their feet are showing and that one can actually hear them giggling.

                    Basically, you avoid anything that could actually get you thrown out of a window. You won’t actually take a stand against Putin. No, you’ll try to pretend to admit to criticising him while trying to criticise Zelensky. Zelensky hasn’t invaded a sovereign nation with his armed forces. He is defending his country though, and unlike Putin, he isn’t a low-test bald fattie hiding in a bunker.