I have problems with people who abstained. The hard thing is, how do you change voter behavior?

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    29 days ago

    Can you say that you aren’t skipping over factors I’ve presented to come to your conclusion?

    They are irrelevant. You don’t try to stop something you support.

    it doesn’t seem like war is required to give the US that kind of sway over the state of Israel.

    Do you expect that Netanyahu would step down from power if we asked?

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      29 days ago

      They are irrelevant.

      They are inconvenient to your argument. This is you dismissing evidence in order to preserve a worldview. Practically the definition of being close minded.

      You don’t try to stop something you support.

      She didn’t try to stop it, that would require holding the aggressors accountable for their actions. If there’s no accountability, why wouldn’t they just pick up where they left off?

      Do you expect that Netanyahu would step down from power if we asked?

      Yes. If the USA, the world’s largest superpower and Israel’s biggest benefactor and arms dealer, were to demand he step down, I don’t think he would feel he had much choice. Maybe he’d try to start a war because of it, but it wouldn’t last very long. Assuming we actually had intention behind the demand.

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        28 days ago

        She didn’t try to stop it

        I thought maybe you were misinformed before, but now I know you are just lying. We just agreed she was working for peace. That is trying to stop it.

        Yes

        Then you are completely ignorant to the political situation in Israel. Holding power is the one thing stopping Netanyahu from going to prison. He won’t step down under any circumstances.

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          28 days ago

          We just agreed she was working for peace.

          No we did not. You agreed with yourself. I said there’s no peace without justice and no stopping without accountability.

          On both parts and others you’re flat out ignoring major pieces of my argument. I have no desire to respond to someone who engages disingenuously like that.