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cm0002@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 4 months ago

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cm0002@lemmy.world to Lemmy Shitpost@lemmy.world · 4 months ago
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  • humble peat digger@lemm.ee
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    It’s unrelated to Ussr.
    Many countries criminalized it and still do including US until very very recent times.

    Nothing to do with communism vs capitalism.

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      Tankie, you could discredit the USSR for not being accepting and still be a good faith communist but nevermind

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        I don’t really care.
        I think ussr had a lot of unique positive things.

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          Like putting Jews and Red Army POWs let out of Nazi camps in gulags. Very positive.

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            Like putting Jews and Red Army POWs let out of Nazi camps in gulags. Very positive.

            that’s not a real thing.
            you wouldn’t be able to find an example of systematic jews transfers to gulags - search if u wanna.
            kidding me - many people in ussr leadership were jews

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              you wouldn’t be able to find an example of systematic jews transfers to gulags - search if u wanna.

              Ok:

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exile_of_Jews_in_the_Soviet_interior_during_World_War_II

              https://www.jewishhistory.org/jews-in-the-gulag-after-wwii/

              https://kennedy.byu.edu/jewish-life-and-anti-semitism-in-the-soviet-gulag-2024-02-14

              https://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/distributed/C/bo246026242.html

              https://academic.oup.com/hgs/article-abstract/34/3/393/6020133

              https://ukrainianjewishencounter.org/en/ukrainian-jewish-political-prisoners-gulag-toward-solidarity-mutual-understanding-cooperation/

              Let me guess- those are all Jewish lies. Just like the Holocaust.

              I’m sure these survivors telling their stories are the biggest liars of all: https://www.jstor.org/stable/23531219

              Just can’t trust those shifty Jews, can ya?

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                tbh i’m 100% confident if this even happened - it was on small scale and not an official ussr policy.

                as in - if some polaks got arrested after 1939 - those were based on class and stance towards ussr. some of those surely were jewish. boohoo.

                there is not a single official document u can find where jews would have been specifically ordered to be deported.

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                  You’re only “100% confident” because you didn’t bother reading those links, especially not the personal stories. Stalin made absolutely no secret of his hatred for Jews. And there’s a “Jewish Autonomous Oblast” in Siberia for a reason. Do you think those Jews wanted to live in the middle of nowhere in the freezing cold?

                  But I am looking forward to you doing what the other guy praising the USSR for having gulags did and say the Jews deserved it.

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                    I’ve read it - they look like anecdotal accounts and don’t look too credible. Would there be any systematic Jewish decoration policy - I assure u this would have come out in the 90s when archives were opened and Western media would have had a field day with this.

                    And no - jao was formed before WW2 - and from what I’m reading - people were not forced to move there, there was a propaganda campaign promoting it.

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          I get, you’re saying the benefits of communism are well worth the sacrifice of a few minorities. That’s an argument you can make, but who decides who the minority is? What if they decide that you’re the minority? Seems like that’s gonna be a fun little twist in your little utopia, won’t it?

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            the minority

            not sure what u talking about.
            there hasn’t been mass ethnic deportations after about ww2 - which I think we can all agree was a very special unique case.
            besides - supposed democracy of the time were putting peaceful japanese into concentration camps and segregating negros - so how are they better.

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