• WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world
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    9 hours ago

    Yeah, the people saying that the guillotine crowd just want to stop oppression are either the stupidest, most ignorant people imaginable or they’re just lying.

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      4 hours ago

      The sweet spot is for the current ruling class to obey a set of rules out of fear of the guillotine or incarceration.

      Exercising the guillotine or incarceration excessively would just be starting over to build the necessary fear with a new ignorant crop of ruling class.

      • endeavor@sopuli.xyz
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        3 hours ago

        Or how about you make laws that limit the influence any one person can have and remove money from politics so anyone can run and you don’t have bribes called lobbying?

        Oh not your power fantasy? Sorry. I guess countries where democracy works and socialism is blended with capitalism so people are happy all need to have bloody genocides happen to them as well. I can see how it is a very reasonable and non extreme take from a very educated person.

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          Or how about you make laws that limit the influence any one person can have and remove money from politics so anyone can run and you don’t have bribes called lobbying?

          Do you see a path forward to this that doesn’t somehow involve doing away with the current system that allows influence and money in politics? Don’t you think the people who benefit from this arrangement will do everything in their power to keep us from reforming it?

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            2 hours ago

            If entirety of the public sees how fucking stupid they are and if you keep reminding them constantly you will get your reforms especially since almost all of the rest of the democractic world has it figured out.