When we go out for sushi with friends we usually order as a group and order a couple of specialty rolls for the table at a time, sometimes making several orders through the evening as time and appetites allow. The idea is manifold: not to over-order food, to spread out food delivery as we drink sake and socialize, to “pipeline” work for the chefs who we understand have other tables to service, and finally because sushi is best when it’s fresh so why order it all up front tonlet it get dry and get manky while we get around to it?

Almost as an afterthought, but also how is the fish tonight? Several smaller orders let us explore what’s “on” and what’s “off” this evening, and modify pur ordering strategy.

The question comes up because our server (a delightful young lady who was all to happy to “spill tea” with us) let us know the chef was annoyed our table was making multiple orders. Yes they were a bit busy, but it’s not like there was a line at the door either.

What say you? Was Chef jumped up his own ass tonight, or were we egregiously out of line ordering food over a couple of rounds?

  • Urist@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    7
    arrow-down
    11
    ·
    edit-2
    7 months ago

    I never tip because that only serves to lower the wages of employees.

    EDIT: The downvote button to this comment is actually an “I am a complete ass who thinks that living wages are something that I, the ever benevolent patron, should bestow upon the worthy serfs at my discretion”-button.

    • Jojo@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      7 months ago

      Not tipping doesn’t fix this problem, it just makes someone get payed less. If you want to fix the issue, regulate it out of existence. You aren’t changing the culture, you’re just being a bit of a dick.

      • Urist@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        7 months ago

        Sorry, but you are wrong. I am not from Burgerland and tipping is not the standard here. I will not contribute to normalizing it either just because some restaurants hate their employees.

        • Jojo@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          7 months ago

          Tipping occasionally doesn’t cause this problem either.

          Being vocal about never tipping implies that it’s an exceptional stance for some reason. If that’s the norm where you live, why does it need to be mentioned?

          • Urist@lemmy.ml
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            7 months ago

            Nothing on Lemmy is posted on basis of “needs to be mentioned”, which kind of makes your question moot. Tipping causes lower wages because it relieves the employers of the obligation of paying their workers. Also, I am talking about systemic change, so what is “occasional” or otherwise conditional is not really a valid counter to the general point.

            Norms are susceptible to change. Just as they are perhaps changing for the worse where I live, it could change for the better somewhere else. This is dependant on people not being idiots, so I am rooting for you.

            • intensely_human@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              2
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              7 months ago

              And by that logic max providing life-saving treatment causes death because it prevents the weeding out of the weaker genes.

            • Jojo@lemm.ee
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              7 months ago

              Nothing on Lemmy is posted on basis of “needs to be mentioned”,

              Literally everything on Lemmy was said for a reason. Bad reasons exist, but I like to give people the benefit of the doubt.

              Tipping causes lower wages because it relieves the employers of the obligation of paying their workers. Also, I am talking about systemic change,

              Tipping doesn’t “cause” lower wages. Tipping becoming an expected social norm can cause that, or exacerbate it. But you as an individual choosing not to tip doesn’t really impact that. It certainly doesn’t effect systemic change. If the norm is already present, all you’re doing is literally lowering one individual’s wages by not tipping them, and if it’s not then what you’re doing is making a statement to that individual (ranging from “I come from America” to “you were really exceptional”).

        • Jojo@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          7 months ago

          Not tipping doesn’t fix this problem, it just makes someone get payed less.

          Just in case it wasn’t clear, when one is not tipping, they are very literally not giving people money. The only “people” you are giving money to are the owners of the service, not the wage workers you may otherwise have tipped.

    • null@slrpnk.net
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      4
      arrow-down
      3
      ·
      7 months ago

      Then don’t go out to eat at places that take tips.

      You aren’t helping the problem, you’re just an asshole.

      • Urist@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        7 months ago

        Thanks for the tip (pun intended), but I usually do not. However, most establishments that rely on tips are not upfront about it in any capacity.

        • intensely_human@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          7 months ago

          Yeah because it’s understood. By all the people not working hard to resist understanding that is.

          You are indeed just being an asshole, with the thinnest possible excuse that nobody other than yourself believes.