Pretty much what the title says. I know he’s a former president and has all of his supporters, but what’s the official reason? Thanks.

  • Chef@sh.itjust.works
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    8 months ago

    I understand what you’re saying but the logic is a little flawed.

    Yes, they both committed fraud.

    SBF defrauded the crypto community, his investors, and FTX users.

    Trump defrauded lenders, property insurers, and various tax authorities (and via that tax fraud, the taxpayers of NY and possibly the USA.)

    SBF was charged criminally and found guilty. I assure you, the civil cases are coming against SBF. And the plaintiffs will most likely win those civil cases.

    Trump was charged civilly and found guilty. I assure you, the criminal cases are coming against Trump. And the plaintiffs will most likely lose those criminal cases.

    That’s the true difference.

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      8 months ago

      I assure you, the criminal cases are coming against Trump

      Fucking when, after he becomes president again and pardons himself, or after he croaks from obesity and dementia?

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          After all you’ve seen Trump get away with I can’t believe that you still somehow think this little detail will matter. SCOTUS will create an exemption of some kind for him.

          “White male Presidents over the age of 75 that wear predominantly red ties can pardon themselves at both the federal and state level.”

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    8 months ago

    A president in jail would be disastrous for the reputation of America as a country. That’s been my theory as to why he will never face any real consequence. It seems like an elephant in the room. One that probably doesn’t even split neatly down partisanship.

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      7 months ago

      Not prosecuting a ex-President for literally trying to both violently and by subterfuge overturn a lawful, democratic election while in office by a position that is literally sworn to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution would officially make America a joke.

      Other democracies can uphold their own laws even when the highest official of the land violates their oath of office. If we do not, the idea of America as a democracy is officially dead.

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        7 months ago

        Sorry, but the fact he was even elected the first time made America a complete joke to the rest of the world. It is utterly bizarre watching this all unfold, and that after everything that’s happened since, Trump still has a good chance of election AGAIN?

        Wtf is going on over there?

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      7 months ago

      In my opinion, not prosecuting a blatant criminal is a much worse look for the country. You can’t undo the past, but you can bring him to justice.

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    8 months ago

    Moderate Dems don’t want to set the precedent of holding powerful politicians accountable, because moderate Dems are terrified if progressives gain power, they’ll hold people accountable regardless of the letter by their name.

    That’s the whole point of being “moderate” occupying the gray area in-between republicans and progressives. And when Republicans are bat shit insane grifters and progressives honestly aren’t asking for anything radical…

    Well, moderates aren’t exactly going to be great people, at least they don’t have to be. I’m sure some are just misguided and genuinely think they’re helping.

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      8 months ago

      A bunch of text, all of it unrelated to the question.

      Trump lost a civil trial, SBF lost a criminal trial.

      You can’t be sent to jail for breaking civil laws.

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        8 months ago

        So do you think Trump broke no laws doing that stuff?

        Because he did.

        If you want the explanation on why he had a civil and not a criminal trial, refer to that “bunch of text unrelated to the question”.

        Sometimes I forget different people need different amounts spelled out for them. I’m sorry I skipped a step and that caused you to become confused.

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          8 months ago

          Your comment proves you don’t understand what’s happening. At all.

          Trump defamed someone. That’s a civil issue. He was put on trial. On a civil trial. Because it’s a civil issue. He lost. He got fined. Not sent to jail. Because it’s a civil trial.

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    7 months ago

    Well the legal system doesn’t exist on paper. Laws are not what the legal system operates on. Allegedly, breaking a law is what allows, but doesn’t require, the legal system to be involved at all.

    So to answer your question, Sam Bankman is a nobody, that no one likes, and caused a very public number of people to lose a lot of money. His case is a slam-dunk, and has no further implications. Trump is a former president who did exactly the same shit that every other former president has done since Washington. So prosecuting him for his crimes now means that the power brokers of the US empire are now potentially open to prosecution. So of course the two aren’t going to be comparable.

    So there is no “official reason” because officially the judicial system is based on individual discretion.

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      7 months ago

      I was with you until

      “Trump is a former president who did exactly the same shit that every other former president has done since Washington.”

      Every president since Washington has misused campaign funds to pay for silence on an affair, stolen top secret documents, conducted business fraudulently, and plotted multiple attempts to subvert an election?

      I must be missing something. If you take that line out I agree with the rest of your comment.