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  • Smacks@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Hamas is shit for putting terror and attacking Israel above taking care of their own civilians. Israel is shit for mass-execution of innocent civilians.

    They’re both shit, but we all know this will only end with Israel exterminating an entire population, which is even shittier.

    • Treczoks@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      The only solution I see is to build a wall around the whole area and just waiting for the shooting to stop eventually.

    • Orionza@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      The reason Hamas is in existence is because their peoples’ homes being taken and the Palestinians being killed constantly, for years. What would you do if your nation has lived in their land for ages, and a people came and took your family homeland and killed your family, and took neighborhoods and whole swaths of areas, then penned you up so that you couldn’t exit or enter your country without their permission…don’t you think you’d rise up with some other warriors to do something, anything? That’s what Hamas is. It is not a terrorist organization to go out and cause terror and trouble. It is the fighting representative of a beaten people.

      • butterflyattack@lemmy.world
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        11 months ago

        It is not a terrorist organization to go out and cause terror and trouble.

        Did you not notice the events that started this recent shit? Hamas certainly engages in terrorism, as does the IDF.

    • doctorcrimson@lemmy.world
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      11 months ago

      Technically, Hamas aren’t Palestinian in origin to begin with, they’re from a group that once controlled Egypt and their power over Gaza Strip was maintained by the Israeli Government via various means including directly being funded by them and neighboring nations. So, it isn’t their people. The don’t give a fuck if Palestine faces genocide, never have.

      • Akasazh@feddit.nl
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        11 months ago

        Why not? It’s the one fundamental differences when comparing this conflict with the Nazi extermination of jews (and others).

        The jews didn’t massacre German civilians before their attempted annihilation.

        It’s not much of a difference, in the entire score of things, but both Hamas and the idf have blood on their hands. Neither have done things benificial to the Palestinian people. The October attack was a strategic mistake of the highest order.

        At the time support for the Netanyahu regime was falling, people were demonstrating. They had literally nothing to gain. They actually played right into bibi’s hand.

        Not that I approve of the Israeli reaction, it’s horrible and indeed a case study on the banality of evil. It is completely outside of all proportions. To say that only one side is to blame, is wrong. Without oct 7 this would never have happened. To deny that you would have to prove that it was a false flag attack.

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            11 months ago

            I do get the analogy of the Warsaw ghetto, I’ve used the same analogy before.

            But the relationship between hamas and the Israeli governement is very curious. If say I’m not on the both sides kind of thing, but on the ‘one of three’. The Palestinian people are suffering under the war mongering of both hamas and the idf. Just like not one hundred procent of Israelis are behind the actions of the idf, most Palestinian people aren’t responsable for the actions of Hamas.

            It’s way more complicated than the binary issue you lot try to make it off it and frankly that is tiring and obtuse.

      • Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        11 months ago

        But it is a both sides situation. Both sides have the same goal. Externinating the other. One side is just much more powerful.