I suspect the person you’re replying to is using “liberal” in a way that refers to someone to the right of their own position. Not in the way Limbaugh used it as a catch-all for anyone left of Reagan.
Likely. I get why people find the modern American use of “liberal” as a synonym for the progressive left annoying, but word usages change and that one has unfortunately stuck, which makes references to the “liberal media” confusing.
Maybe it changed in your country but that doesn’t affect the meaning it has in my country. We may use the English language to communicate, but we’re not reproducing all of american culture, and we don’t bring over all of their changes. Yes, it’s confusing for you. For us too. No, don’t expect the rest of the world to adopt all the changes you make.
the modern American use of “liberal” as a synonym for the progressive left… but word usages change
Modern American civics education is, on average, basically non-existent. All changes in word usage trends toward less nuance, greater redundancy, and greater ambiguity.
And that’s fine, I guess, because Descriptivism or whatever. But in the event that moderately educated people use the terms “Liberal” or “Leftist”, it’s probably okay to assume the formal meanings.
makes references to the “liberal media” confusing."
You seem to not be that confused, since you correctly pointed out that these companies are owned by conservatives.
I’m well-educated and understand the historic use of “liberal” versus today’s common usage in the United States. My only real concern is that people who are only familiar with U.S. common usage might need some explanation.
I’m assuming you meant “liberal” ironically? Those outlets are exactly as liberal as the right-wing conservative corporations that own them.
American liberals are right wing conservative corpos.
I suspect the person you’re replying to is using “liberal” in a way that refers to someone to the right of their own position. Not in the way Limbaugh used it as a catch-all for anyone left of Reagan.
Likely. I get why people find the modern American use of “liberal” as a synonym for the progressive left annoying, but word usages change and that one has unfortunately stuck, which makes references to the “liberal media” confusing.
Maybe it changed in your country but that doesn’t affect the meaning it has in my country. We may use the English language to communicate, but we’re not reproducing all of american culture, and we don’t bring over all of their changes. Yes, it’s confusing for you. For us too. No, don’t expect the rest of the world to adopt all the changes you make.
Modern American civics education is, on average, basically non-existent. All changes in word usage trends toward less nuance, greater redundancy, and greater ambiguity.
And that’s fine, I guess, because Descriptivism or whatever. But in the event that moderately educated people use the terms “Liberal” or “Leftist”, it’s probably okay to assume the formal meanings.
You seem to not be that confused, since you correctly pointed out that these companies are owned by conservatives.
I’m well-educated and understand the historic use of “liberal” versus today’s common usage in the United States. My only real concern is that people who are only familiar with U.S. common usage might need some explanation.
Welcome to Lemmy.
I find any use of the same word to mean opposite things confusing, and it seems to happen more often than I would like in the US politics
I hope this comment cleaves your brain.
I think they meant it literally
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