I’m always picking apart movies and TV shows for subtext, deeper meaning, Jungian archetypes, revelation of social patterns, inner psychology, etc., but it seems like there are two related trends that make the traditional, scholarly approach of a close reading increasingly unpopular:

  1. The work is about whatever the author says it is about or could have intended it to mean. Literature can have a multipilicity of meanings, some of them deeply personal to the reader, and many of them unintended. That the fun of thinking about a piece and breaking it down an examining scenes and dialogue and symbolism can all be replaced by doing a search on the author’s Twitter is deeply depressing and completely destroys the role of art–to be an ambiguous sounding board for our souls and unconscious reflection of our society.

  2. A work is bad or good depending on the political messages it explicitly and implicitly communicates." and related: I’m more likely to agree with an interpretation if helps me politically. Stories with flawed characters are condemned in this system, because the point of literature isn’t to explore the human condition, but to create propaganda for ideologies, and your role isn’t too seriously examine the text but to create your own propaganda for your side online.

Examples:

  • 300 can’t have a gay subtext because that would mean Zach Snyder was woke!'”

  • The Matrix is definitively a trans-allegory because The Wachowskis said it was. If you disagree, you are stupid, because they said so.” I love reading the Matrix as a trans-allegory, but it is not ever explicitly mentioned in the text so I chafe at it being definitively, or even obviously, a trans-allegory.

  • Sex and the City is bad because Carrie has an extremely fucked up relationship with Mr. Big (ie, only positive role models are “good”–I’m absolutely OK with people pointing that out, but the problem is building a world where only “safe messages” are propagated and treating all audiences as uncritical 3-year-olds in front YouTube Kids).

The only real pushback against art-by-tweet is against JKR declaring Dumbledore to be gay. But, really, that’s just politics taking precedence, because people don’t want her in the LGBT tent exlcuding trans people.

There also seems to be a knock-on effect in writing rooms, where complexity and ambiguity are being sacrificed for clear moralizing and political point-making.

And as a long-time Star Trek fan, I’m not saying art can’t be explicitly political! Of course it can! But I am saying it is increasingly not allowed to be anything else.

Is this a vibe anyone else is getting? My references are obviously seriously dated, but whenever they come up, I feel like I’m speaking Ancient Greek.

Bonus question: Who has a better story than Bran?

  • schipelblorp@sh.itjust.worksOP
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    18 天前

    So I saw Angela’s Picard video. Good stuff. I wonder what she would make of DS9, which I think is the start of this turn away from the utopic future and Omnibenevolent Star Fleet, but is, you know, not stupid.

    I saw Morbid Zoo’s Gollum and I’m glad I did. I keep expecting her to drop into Jungian terminology (shadow being the one I missed most), but she doesn’t, and that’s fine.

    I’m one of the shallow-headed redditors who does attack LotR for being a conservative fantasy, even though I have loved it since my mother bought me the Rankin-Bass Hobbit LP. Like, I totally get why fascist racists fucking love it and I don’t understand how people can’t see why! There’s a superior race of people (Aragorn) who deserve to rule by genetic superiority, and other races (orcs) that deserve to be genocided. Come on! I mean, I only get into these arguments because I’m absolutely flabbergasted that people don’t see the problem, not because I think Tolkien was fascist.

    But reading LotR as mythology is another richly rewarding exercise, too, and one I plan to do more of as I find my way in life.

    Any progress on the Orville?

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      I’m glad you liked them! There’s so much deep literature talk going on right now I was show somebody who wanted that.

      Nah that’s valid. You can see they love it for stupid reductive reasons because they are stupid and reductive people. Not the first time it’s happened to good art, it won’t be the last.

      The mood to watch something hasn’t struck me but it might not happen organically so I’ll just start it now. Brb

      Edit: I remember what was off about this to me. I think I had pretty low tolerance for anything that wasn’t always 100% cool and original all of the time and I was dating a woman fresh out of a divorce so I think we just weren’t vibing with it blind.

      Since then I’ve just finished TNG and some DS9 so I think I’m gonna appreciate it more now that I know what all these camera references are calling to

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      Alright, got halfway into the first season. This is way better now that I’ve watched TNG. You’re right though, McFarlane is now the most difficult part of the show but it’s pretty alright now that I understand these tropes