• potustheplant@feddit.nl
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    7 days ago

    If you want to buy that narrative, sure. Go ahead. There was no “dirty” play, you sound like someone who never watches anything outside the world cup.

    • Lucius_Sweet@lemmy.world
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      6 days ago

      Only one team came to the final to play football, Spain had 20 shots 12 on target, Argentina had 2 shots with none on target in 120 mins of football. Argentina came to spoil the game and hoped to steal it on penalties. If I was an Argentina fan I would be embarrassed by the team and even more so by their petelent display at the end physically assaulting the Spanish players. The Argentinians had no right to be that upset, they were never in the game.

      Football was the real winner.

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      6 days ago

      I watch football every week, Paredes should have seen 4 yellows, Argentina plays a game of grabbing and pushing to irritate the opponents and then starts little fights to break the rhythm of the game.

      Maybe that’s how it is in South America, I don’t watch South American football but in Europe that’s trash and with a good ref you start seeing yellows for repeated faults even on small offenses until it stops.

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            6 days ago

            Paredes was way too violent. However, if you watch the video you’ll see both how garcia taunts him and how Gavi hits him from behind. Both sides were at fault here, bot only one is Argentina and that’s all some see.

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              6 days ago

              If I were Argentinan, I’d be embarrassed for my country today with how that team acted yesterday.

              And here you are still stroking away at it.

              There’s a reason the world was not cheering for Spain, but cheering AGAINST Argentina. Because your whole country are a bunch of fucking losers.

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                6 days ago

                But you’re not. That’s why you don’t and never will understand this locura.

                There’s a reason the world was not cheering for Spain, but cheering AGAINST Argentina. Because your whole country are a bunch of fucking losers.

                There was actually a pretty big social media campaing. Going as far as using AI to create images of things that never happened.

                I honestly don’t care because I actually watched the games. We got to the final because we deserved it, not because of favours. Period. If you think you’re better than us, prove it on the pitch like spain did. Otherwise, keep watching on tv.

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                  6 days ago

                  Disagree VARgentina, you’ve gotten away with a lot of hate the last few years because of Messi’s fanboys. Once he retires people will remember that Argentina are and always have been dirty cheats. At least you are the best in the world at something, chin up lad!

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                    6 days ago

                    Imaging having so much aura that people have to make up a theory that everything was scripted and arranged for you to win. Also, is it a bad thing to be a “messi fanboy”? Like literally, you’re saying that rooting for the best player in the history of the sport is a bad thing. It’s just sad to see xD

                    You should watch football more often than just once every 4 years. You might learn a thing or two.

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              6 days ago

              You could donate your eyes to people that would actually use them.

              You and your kind are classless.

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                6 days ago

                “Your kind” lol. You’re my kind dude. We’re all people.

                Also, using that kind of video and zoom as if it was something scandalous is pretty embarrassing. Almost as embarrassing as giving the golden ball to a player that had zero goals or assists.

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                  6 days ago

                  You are joke, downplaying a straight up assault of a sucker punch from Molina. You are classless, and always will be, for the whole world to see.

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                  Holy god, the people are bringing more receipts than a fucking tax return and you can’t stop the denial! You’re getting more ratios than a cookbook for cooking for banquets.

                  But like, thanks for the free entertainment. This is basically a modern day gallows where we are throwing tomatoes in your face.

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      6 days ago

      Argentina consistently delivers teams that are a disgrace to football and sportsmanship.

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                  6 days ago

                  Ah, fun at parties I see. Not the world cup parties, tho, those are in Madrid.

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                    6 days ago

                    Sick burn (? What can you expect from fans that have 2 songs:

                    • “españa” clap clap clap
                    • “viva la españa”

                    Classic hits. Rolls right off the tongue.

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                6 days ago

                This has happened multiple times throughout the years, not yesterday. It’s simply a reality.

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                  6 days ago

                  Yes, I know. Argentina was down for a very long time. The 2022 world cup is pretty much the only good thing that happened to them in the last 40 years. Trying to diminish it would be cruel. So yes, Spaniards will say they envy you but they are just being nice.

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                    6 days ago

                    3 world cup finals out of the last 4, 2 copa america and a finalissima. Sure, that was the only good thing. Lol. Tell me you’re envious without telling me you’re envious.

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            6 days ago

            A single match does not define your national team. Although it’s normal to have such a short memory being a spanish supporter. You were only just born in 2010 after all xD

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                6 days ago

                I wasn’t talking about your literal birth date. It was directed at the spanish football team which basically has no history at all before 2010.

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                  3 days ago

                  3 Euros and 2 World Cups in the 21st century. I’m OK with that, especially given that Spain hasn’t been accused of match fixing in 1978 in home soil, scoring with a handball in 1986 (la mano de dios), or drugging a rival in 1990 (el agua bendita).

                  But I guess that enshrining those moments is also part of Argentinians being “passionate”.

                  Argentina won a World Cup in 2024 with a loss and two draws, probably the worst results of a champion in the modern era. They won two copa America during a time when the whole continent hadn’t won’t a single World Cup in 20 years. The only good player they have will retire this coming year, and I’m sure as fuck they won’t win another World Cup until 2050.

                  So, thanks, but I’d take Spain recent successes instead.

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                    How could they be accused of anything if they were footballistically born in 2010? XD their accomplishments can’t be denied though. They’re a very good team and I never said otherwise.

                    The 1978 match fixing is a popular accusation. Alas, an accusation with no proof. You’re free to believe it’s true, if that makes you feel better. Even though la mano de dios in 1986 happened, it happened to a country that had very recently commited war crimes and invaded argentinian soil. Sorry for celebrating it. Maybe spain sympathizes with other colonizers, I don’t. 1990 is also a popular story with no actual proof. Keep accusing of random stuff if you want, it’s pretty amusing.

                    Argentina won a World Cup in 2024 with a loss and two draws, probably the worst results of a champion in the modern era.

                    Is it? I thought winning the cup was the best possible result.

                    If we’re playing that game, when Spain won in 2010, they scored 8 goals. That’s the fewest ever for a champion. On the other hand, Argentina scored 15 in 2022 (2nd highest in world cup history).

                    They won two copa America during a time when the whole continent hadn’t won’t a single World Cup in 20 years.

                    What a stupid thing to say xD that doesn’t mean that it’s easy to do. Also, 20 years is 5 world cups. Do you really think that’s a meaningful metric? It’s also wrong. When Argentina won the cup in 2024, there was a country in the continent that had won the world cup. I think you can guess who.

                    The only good player they have will retire this coming year

                    Saying that messi is the “only” good player is being either blind or just ignorant.

                    I’m sure as fuck they won’t win another World Cup until 2050.

                    Here’s to hoping you’re wrong 🤞

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                  Bro the highest quality league is the spanish one. Barca and Real Madrid alone dominate football.

                  The Argentinian league might as well be called “boca v river” and one of them even got relegated a few years ago

                  EDIT : The reason Messi became huge was literally because Barcelona moved him out of fucking Rosario. They couldn’t even get him the medicine he needed for his growth

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                    The problem wasn’t getting it, it was paying. Messi would’ve been messi regardless of where he went. Glad it was barcelona though. It’s a great club and I never criticized it. Nor did I criticize or talk abount any league of any kind. But hey, if you want to keep crying about random stuff no one said go ahead.

                    Do keep in mind though, Barcelona is in Catalunya.

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        7 days ago

        See? You can’t even name a football club. Also, Spain made 80 fouls and argentina 88 in the entire tournament, but Argentina is “dirty”. Another interesting stat, Argentina players were fouled 86 times, whereas Spain’s were fouled 70.

        But sure, keep repeating the hate narrative.

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          Why would I name a football club? Are you alright?

          Again, it’s not about the numbers. There is no stat on the severity of fouls. Did you even watch the matches? Or are you willfully blind to the shit your favorite team does?

          I don’t know how you guys play football in South America, but in the rest of the world we tend to follow the rules and play the game, rather than try and takedown the opponents.

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      6 days ago

      no dirty play? Except Messi, who played like a champ, almost the whole team was a gang of thugs.

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        Messi tried to get Cucurella ejected for covering his mouth while he was speaking to a teammate. Bitch move.

        The irony is that the rule that would have sent him off is enacted because another racist incident by an Argentinian player, Gianluca Prestianni.