• drkt
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    The rightoids use economic arguments to support their racism and lefties respond by proving the economic argument wrong instead of just calling them racists, as they are, because that didn’t work previously. The real problem here is that nothing is going to work. They didn’t arrive at their position through reasoning. You will not talk them out of their position by being reasonable. Simply do not engage.

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      5 hours ago

      I like the quote. You can’t reason someone out of a position that they did not arrive at through reason.

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      it’s dangerous to not engage when they keep winning seats though. yes you can’t logic someone out of an idea they didn’t logic themselves into, but you have to show that it is not tolerated. not engaging at all in protest looks exactly the same as not engaging because they said what you were going to.

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        but you have to show that it is not tolerated.

        You misunderstand; I do not mean to stand by and idly let them do whatever they want- I am saying to not engage them in debate. Do not talk to them. Do not give them validation through attention and platforming.

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      Simply do not engage.

      You can’t just not engage because then they achieve their goals.

      You can’t reason them out of their nonsense. You can make them see you as in-group, so the mechanisms that got them where they are work in your favor. Or you can really traumatize them, so they retreat.