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  • did you read 1,2,3 ?

    Yes, I did, and they are the same stuff I already adressed, so there is no need to do it again.

    how is that not as good of a proof that he was a god-denying athiest as your claim that he was misguided christian?

    You clearly don’t understand what proof is. All you do is point to something, then in a wordy way, say “a christian would not do that.” That is not proof. That is pretending to know what approximately 2.38 billion people in the world would do - not to mention the dead ones. It’s absolutely stunning that you are not capable of understanding that.

    but do you really believe David Miscavige believes there is an alien who visited earth 40k years ago and they’re waiting for him to save the world as the narrative of scientology says

    Once again: I can’t read minds, and neither can you. And unless he says otherwise, we have to take his word for this. Is it a weird tale? Sure! Is it any more weird than christian tales? Absolutely not! So, by your logic, just because I cannot understand that a person actually believes all that god bogus, should I now consider each and every religious person to be lying? Every pope? Every priest? Every nun? Everyone of my neighbours? All liars and actually atheists? Tell me.

    WITHOUT PROOF

    I gave you the proof. Or you could get yourself a copy of “Mein Kampf” and find the proof I pointed to first hand.

    I don’t care for more of this bullshit scotsman.

    Not my fault that’s the only tool in your box.

    and so is your bullshit stupid claim that hitler was not an athiest.

    Except, I have proof to point to. You only have denial and self delusion.




  • but it’s still subjective because you may have proved what he showed, but not really what he stood for and believed inside

    A thing no one can do.

    He lied about talking to god

    Opinion with no base. One could say >subjective

    Every action there really concludes that he really believed that there is no god aka an atheist

    Thats both, opinion with no base and bullshit. Christians (or believers of any religion) do and have done horrible things. Being a christian / theist does not stop you from being a bad person. You want to tell me that Hitler was no true scotsman?

    Btw similarly I can prove to you that David Miscavige really believes in that Scientology spaceship coming at the end of times. I can quote him and show that all ot David Miscavige 100% belives in the narrative of scientoligy

    And thats all you can do, because you, just like me, can not tell what people think or believe.

    while both of us we know (…) that he actually inside does not belive in that scientology stuff

    I don’t. And I think it’s arrogant to pretend to know what someone believes when he states other.

    this criminal scum indocrinated his followers with evil ideas for his benefit

    Not a thing a believer couldn’t do. Actually a thing believers quite often do.

    but thatwill remain subjective still

    Agree.

    That’s why I know and think Hitler was an Atheist

    You don’t know, you just think. And for what we have left on the table to examine, you’re wrong.

    it doesnt mean atheism is bad or that we should demonize atheists

    Yet, believers commonly use the lie of “Hitler beeing atheist” as an example for atheists beeing bad people.

    In conclusion, once again, a pretty wordy “no true scotsman”


  • You say he was, and then post an article that concludes

    it seems evident his religion was closest to pantheism

    and then talks about how he constantly talked about god as this or god as that. Pantheism is not Atheism and the constant babbling of what god does or wants as if it was fact he exists certainly isn’t either.

    Then there’s “Mein Kampf” where Hitler himself talks about continuing “the work of the Lord”.

    So glaube ich heute im Sinne des allmächtigen Schöpfers zu handeln: Indem ich mich des Juden erwehre, kämpfe ich für das Werk des Herren.

    So today I believe I am acting in the spirit of the almighty Creator: By resisting the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.

    This senctence is in basically every german history schoolbook.

    A speech of him from 1927:

    Wir müssen Gott dan­ken für diese Gnade. (…) Gott hat Völker, aber keine Klassen geschaffen.

    We must thank God for this grace. (…) God created peoples, not classes.

    And a speech from 1939:

    Es sei „eine Anmaßung, anzunehmen, daß der liebe Gott die Welt nur für ein oder zwei Völker geschaffen habe.“

    It is “presumptuous to assume that the dear/good Lord created the world only for one or two peoples.”

    “Der liebe Gott” is a german christian notion I cannot find a good translation for.

    Spoken like a real Atheist, eh?

    Hitler constantly talks about God, what he thinks he wants him to do or what would serve his (Gods) purpose. Hitler. Was. Not. An. Atheist.

    Every attempt to make him a “not christian” comes down to “no true scotsman”, as you skillfully demonstrate:

    he was preaching an extreme idology that did not belong to any religon







  • Yeah, I tend to do that and you’re probably right.

    Was just talking with a coworker and maybe I’ll just start with saving images and backing them up to AWS glacier or some other cheap cloud storage. That way my data is safe in case I fuck up my setup.

    After reading about proxmox, I decided to go with containers and smaller, specialized services first, as getting to know container stuff is one of my goals for a homelab.