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  • Essen oder Trinken hat nichts mit dem Aggregatzustand zu tun sondern mit der Art wie man es zu sich nimmt. Suppe mit Löffel wird gegessen, Suppe aus Suppentasse isst man mit dem Löffel, kann sie aber auch trinken.

    Mit Eis verhält es sich genauso, benutzt du einen Löffel, beißt hinein oder schleckst. Dann isst du. Ist es ein Milchshake oder ein Milch Kaffee und du benutzt dafür keinen Löffel, dann trinkst du.

    Ich würde soweit gehen zu sagen, dass man wenn man dieses Prinzip anwendet sogar Wasser essen kann, das macht aber außer Kindern, Kranken oder körperlich eingeschränkten keiner.





  • Well I mean if you take a look at Flamanville Block 3. If you call that a smooth an unproblematic construction… They startet in 2007 wanted to produce energy by 2012, for the construction cost of 3.3 bn Euro. It’s still not connected to the network, though it’s sceduled for the end of the year and construction cost went up to 13.2bn (EDF) or 19bn (Cour des comptes) whoever you want to believe.

    That is what I was talking about, France is the most experienced country in Europe concerning nuclear energy and have serious problems with it. If you want to blame it on European regulations, be my guest.



  • whome@discuss.tchncs.detoScience Memes@mander.xyzAnon questions our energy sector
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    That’s a crazy oversimplification almost all German party’s had a part in the phase out and shut down of German nuclear energy. To point at the Greens and say it was them, is a right wing talking point pushed by Springer media.

    If there was a way to make good money with nuclear we would have it all around. To say a grass roots movement was able to push this through is laughable, if we look how everything else works in this world. While surely way better to handle securely it’s simply not easy to build and operate. Just look at all the plants currently under construction in Europe, they all struggle to get finished, take years to decades longer then planned and are way more expensive to build then initially estimated. Why is France struggling so hard when they have a population that is definitely way more open minded towards nuclear?


  • Well if we had no alternative I would agree with you and I would be okay if we had to subsidize nuclear (which isn’t emissions free due to the mining and refining of uranium bye the way). But if a country like France, which has a pretty high rate of acceptance regarding nuclear, can’t get it to work, who will? Apart from maybe authoritarian countries. Just think about the amount of plants we have to build to create a significant impact, if hardly any plant has been built in a relative short timeframe. I’d say put money in research yeah but focus on renewable, network, storage and efficiency optimization for now.


  • Sometimes it’s documented but often I’d say it’s a selling technique that works for any big infrastructure project. You give a rather low first cost projection, governments decide let’s do this and after a while you correct the price up. First, people say: well that is to be expected the project shouldn’t fail because of a little price hike. Then the price gets corrected again and then the sunken cost fallacy kicks in. now we are to deep in and we have to pull through. And so on. And you probably can’t get price guarantees for such big projects cause no one would make a bid. It’s a very flawed system. I’d like to know how often solar or windpark projects get price adjusted?


  • But it’s not done well. Just look at the new built plants, which are way over budget and take way longer to build then expected. Like the two units in Georgia that went from estimated 14bn to finally 34bn $. In France who are really experienced with nuclear, they began building their latest plant in 2007 and it’s still not operational, also it went from 3.3bn to 13.2bn €. Or look at the way Hinkley Point C in the UK is getting developed. What a shit show: from estimated 18bn£ to now 47bn£ and a day where it starts producing energy not in sight.