Oh you're good. I'm aware of my lack of knowledge on VZ so I was teeing up for someone(s) to come help out because the little research I did before posting didn't give me the answers I was looking for.
And to be clear I completely agree that nationalizing the oil industry in any capacity is a socialist policy, I just wasn't sure that was enough to call a country "socialist", though also I completely agree that by and large trying to nail down entire complex countries and systems to 1 of 2 boxes is probably a waste of effort in and of itself.
For me in general I feel like it comes down to a matter of degree. I know that the Chinese government has the majority stake in just about any relevant industry in the country , and their political reforms seem to work well and get people involved and keep power in the hands of the socialists, so I feel like it's safe to say they are socialist by and large.
I was not aware until someone replied, of the neighborhood / community councils and other projects that were being setup which I feel like definitely bolsters the argument that they are socialist.
I don't disagree, and honestly I have not seen his lectures so I have no clue what his point was, it might be insane. I guess reflexively I tend to get combative towards people/parents who tend to justify the hierarchy even when the children are like practically adults. I also take issue with the basis that parents get to make all decisions for their children with no outward input. We have too many children dying from preventable diseases because parents decided "it's my kid, my body" basically, and refuse vaccines or proper medical care for their children.