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  • Do you think that's over? What a dumb take. It's like watching your enemy do a tactical retreat and thinking you've won the war. Portland is literally filled with ICE today. Do you think it worked? Seriously.

    It's the equivalent of saying "all we needed to do was protest and elect FDR". And ignoring all of the workers that armed themselves and took over factory floors by force. You have horse blinders on so you can still believe the lie of a whitewashed and fabricated version of MLK. I'm sure you also don't believe that Malcolm X and the Black Panthers had any positive impact during the civil rights movement.

  • You spent the entire first comment explaining how "it's not time yet" and then ended with and advocated for not fighting back.

    What is this tremendous power I have to stop you from going out and antagonizing ICE yourself?

    First, we're discussing what you are advocating for mate. No one with a brain thinks that you individually have power. You're playing dumb to avoid standing on your original point.

    Second, if you think people are going out and antagonizing ICE, you are hopeless. The fact that you even use that word makes it clear you don't take seriously (or don't understand) the degree of state violence that is being done. There is no antagonizing an invasion of what are essentially SS troops.

    Arm your homes, but in the streets protest peacefully.

    Not sure why you're trying to ignore the entire thesis and conclusion of your own comment.

    When will YOU ask yourself why you have to put words that I did not say in my mouth

    I think it's pretty clear I didn't put words in your mouth. I'm literally just quoting you mate. You're the one backing down with "people can do what they want".

    The difference between our comments is this:

    YOU are ADVOCATING for something. You are telling people to not be violent in response to state violence. "It's not time yet". Here, look at this hyperfocused example of Portland. Ignoring all of the violent resistance that occured in Portland at that time.

    YOU are telling people to only resort to self defense on an individual basis if they are attacked inside their homes.

    I AM explaining why what is happening will inevitably lead to individual acts of violence if no action is taken by the state government in response to the federal governments violence.

    I AM saying (not advocating because I would never ever call for it because that's I'm sure against the rules here) that organizing that individual violence into what essentially an armed resistance is a much more effective form of resistance.

    You, clearly haven't experienced that violence first hand. It's why you keep telling people to go protest peacefully. If you went to a protest, you'd realize that is not something that is even possible now in Minnesota. You're standing on the sidelines telling the quarterback what to do, when you've never even touched a football.

    Go to Minnesota. Take a pepper bomb to the face. Then tell me how long you'll keep going back and being "peaceful" as they add 1000 more troops today.

  • I think you read my comment as somehow promoting violence or even romanticizing it in some way.

    There are things I agree with in your comment and things I disagree with. But I don't think it's meaningful to discuss that because you seem to have taken my comment in the wrong way from the very start.

    I am was not describing what I want to happen, or what works in bringing about radical change (though history tells us that is almost always through some form of violenct resistance). I was simply explaining what happens when a society subject to state violence is backed into a corner. It was almost a plea to not bring our society to that inevitable stage. Something that "protest peacefully" leaders with zero action are contributing to.

    I think maybe you should reread my comment with that perspective. Then maybe you'd have a more meaningful response.

    I think you may also have a better grasp on it if, instead, you widened your scope a bit more. You seem to be stuck in a very short timeframe of historical reference in which you're comparing to. You should widen your scope to include the rise of major fascist powers. Limiting yourself to comparing events within your lifetime or even recent American history is definitely limiting your ability to apply historical materialist understanding of what is going on. Though, I do think you are thinking correctly, you are not really able to describe or grasp what is going on fully.

    There is no point in telling people to "arm themselves in their homes". When, inevitably, after 100s of armed people are killed in their homes the remaining armed people will realize that, they are stronger together. And waiting for the state violence to come to their door is just puting them at a disadvantage for no reason other than some vague notion of a moral society and state that, clearly, no longer exists.

    When will YOU ask yourself: Why am I advocating for people to defend themselves, but only after it reaches them personally while they are alone in their home?

    Because that time WILL come for you. It just hasn't yet. But for many people that have experienced the state violence first hand. It already has. And those that live through it aren't going to fight back alone in their home. They are going to get organized.

    You're puting an arbitrary restriction on resistance to state violence that does nothing but help to make that state violence easier to carry out.

  • Here is my issue with the opposition and the "stay peaceful" cries from the Democratic politicians.

    They have to do something radical in response to the violence of the federal government if they want individual citizens to stay peaceful! Omar should be calling on Tim Walls to use state power to purge ICE from the state.

    Does this escalate? Yes, it absolutely does. But it's an escalation of state power in response to federal crimes. Is it legal? Who the fuck cares?! Create a constitutional crisis! If you don't want citizens getting violent, you don't say bull shit like "oh, they want us to be violent. They'll use it as a reason to be more violent". BECAUSE THEY ALREADY ARE?! They are already being fucking Nazis.

    Like, I'm sorry. But how the fuck do you think we got to door to door "papers please" checks? How did we get to the cold blooded execution of an American citizen live in 4k?

    Was it because of all this violent leftist resistance? Fuck no! How are we even talking about that like it's a meaningful thing?! We got here because there has been ZERO meaningful resistance within the political system that you are telling us to obey.

    Fucking do something that actually takes balls. Fascist are fucking pussies and they back off at the first sign of resistance. Why? Because they are not popular. They need to keep up the illusion of power by walking away from every person that actually fights back.

    If you don't want violent citizens you have to actually use the power of the state to respond to the violence that they are being subjected to. Otherwise, you're telling the victim to not fight back, only because the bully will "make an example of them". But you're the fucking Teacher and the Bully is the school principal. Fucking do something!

    When the Teachers only action is to tell the students to "not fight back" as the Principal abuses every student. The Teacher is ALSO the problem.

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  • Just a reminder. If you're only sitting on the couch watching, and not getting involved, you're not any more helpful than the people closing their eyes to it.

    At the very least. Get to know your neighbors. Your door dash order might bring ICE to your door. Community is what we need right now.

    We're far south of the Rubicon.

  • Thank you. That website is cancer on mobile.

  • Ballot measure that is literally just still a proposal at this point. Jesus, the titles are so dumb. Show me all the Billionaires leaving New York after Mamdani won. Oh, right, they didn't.

    California Dems are such shitheads that even if this was voted for Newsom would just veto the will of the people again.

  • What if you asked the bikini to be made of fishing line and wrapped around his neck?

  • When I'm walking in a parking lot and a car fails to yield to me. If they are close enough for me to smack their car, I do. Gives them a little scare.

    I've been in more dangerous situations walking into a grocery store. And I never felt the need to assassinate the drivers. I have WANTED to on occasion. But, somehow I have enough restraint to not to.

    If this ICE agent was protecting himself and his fellow officers. Well, then I think I deserve a medal of honor or whatever the civilian equivalent is.

  • I don't know what this said. But, at this point, I likely would have agreed. When the opposition party is asking people that are being executed by the state to "remain peaceful, the system will work". They have to actually grow a pair of balls and use their position of power to fight back WITH THE SYSTEM. If they had any balls they'd turn the police force of Minnesota around to protect the protestors.

    The only thing that the state government is doing is remaining passive and obedient to a federal government that just executed one of its citizens.

    They can say naughty words all they want. They mean NOTHING without action! If you want people to remain peaceful, you can't make peaceful action result in no material change. Otherwise people are going to get real "specific" really fast.

    Edit: hope this is "general" enough of a comment for the mods.

  • Last night I finished with my hyper-focus and my room was a mess. I knew I needed to clean it before going to bed. Wife would wake up with the kid and all my dangerous tools would be out. And you know what I did?

    I actually cleaned it BEFORE I sat down on the couch and did my post hyper-focus unwind. It was amazing.

    I actually relaxed from my hyper-focus project AND my post cleaning phase all at once. It was a double post dopamine reward/relax session.

    Might try it again someday. But probably not.

    Edit: just realized I'm literally sitting here with all my tools laying out from tonight's session. Fuck.

  • I'm all for "the market can remain irrational longer than you can remain solvent". But, anyone (including you) that gives a timeline is just going off vibes.

    We have door knocking SS agents and are kidnapping foreign nations leaders. I don't think there is any predictable timeline.

    I think the investors and the stocks are far from the only cards that are being played in the game right now.

    This isn't just about domestic economic stability. It's about social unrest, geopolitics, and a cold war being waged against China.

    This shit could crash tomorrow morning or go on for years. It's not really reasonable to give a rational to when the contradictions of this system will collapse. The only certain thing we know is that it will.

  • I'm not an accelerationist by any means. But, a part of me has faith that the "normies" of the American public having to experience real material struggles will radicalize a lot of people into leftist (anti capitalist) politics.

    It's my hope anyway. And, well, there really is no better time for that to happen than now.

  • Ok. I didn't know that but you are probably right. I think it's only the Teslas that are just sitting still and doing that awful hum. I'm ok with the hum for a moving vehicle so I hear it coming. But, when one is just sitting still humming it's infuriating.

  • Would be better than that awful annoying hum. God I hate it. When the car is stopped but running it's the worst. Who decided that was a good sound?

  • Obviously to protect the first bullet that he fired.

  • I've had more dangerous encounters with Tesla drivers in a Whole Foods parking lot.

    Edit: Must have made this comment some time after hearing this song. Wasn't meant to be made without credit. Not the exact line but definitely similar to the opener.

    Not even sure though. Maybe it's just a common thought with all of us having to hear Nazis on Twitter pretending like the piece of shit had any real fear for his life.

    Anyway, song below.

    https://youtu.be/El0CLduLgew