If they’re expecting people to use the Frame with the Machine, then they’d probably want the Machine on the market first. I’m not totally clear on the strategy. They obviously made it “standalone”, but will there be enough content to release it as such?
I certainly plan to buy it specifically to use with the Machine.
I think those were listed specifically as controllers. Here’s the previous “leak” :
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I saw some info on a recent road trip where it would say a trip “uses 54%”. Except that it was wildy pessimistic, by double digits, every time. Unless it adjusts based on your input, I would struggle to find this useful.
I used the Wii version. There was a (mostly) helpful video that had links to pre-configured controller mappings so I can do all the motion control stuff with regular controls. The star aiming isn’t quite as intuitive, but I’ve not had an issue playing casually.
After the winter sale and some Christmas gift cards I was kinda paralyzed by choice and just stopped playing.
I’ve been following “Video Game Club” on Mastodon and the March game is Super Mario Galaxy. So getting emulator and controller working for that and getting it going. The game itself seems decent, but has not become a total timesink yet.
Yeah I think that was my point about feeling like Valve is purposely screwing me. Microsoft showed with the Xbox Ally X that their appetite for hardware subsidies is waning (perhaps even their appetite for hardware at all).
Valve has a lot of goodwill with Steam Deck owners and I think if they price it at a number higher than any one person’s expectations, that person is less likely to think it’s Valve’s fault, than if Sony were to do the same.
See point a. Everyone is so capitalism-brained they assume every company’s goal is to sell the maximum amount of product and anything less is abject failure. (Ok that’s a bit of hyperbole.) But Valve is a weird company and we just don’t know what their criteria for success is.
If they’re aiming for a market the same size or larger than the Steam Deck, they will probably struggle at higher price points. But if they’re look at 1-2M units? That could be doable with people like me. That’s a relatively small portion of the gaming market, but might be enough for them to be worth it.
I really don’t understand the hand-wringing about the cost. I see comments all the time about how it’s “DOA” at some price or another and it strikes me as someone projecting their own preferences and values, including the “analyst” quoted in the article.
As an outside observer you don’t know a) Valve’s goals; b) almost anyone else’s preferences and values.
I say this as someone who enjoys gaming, won’t ever buy a console and won’t ever build a gaming rig. This product is perfect for me and I’d have to feel like Valve were purposely screwing me to not buy it. I may be a minority but I can’t be alone.
Valve hardware is niche. They have (as of 2024) less than 400 people working there, and surely most of them of Steam and… maybe some games.
I really heard nothing in their presentations and interviews to suggest they have grand aspirations of shifting 10s of millions of units. The Deck I think is considered a success, and still only moved in a few years what the Switch did in a few months.
I think their target demographic is PC gamers who are just not super enthusiastic about the endless hardware grind.
I don’t think Valve is trying to convert console players. I think (and they’ve implied) that they’re trying to offer what a lot of Steam Deck buyers have been asking for: a more powerful Steam Deck that plays more of their library. That they took a lot of cues from consoles in terms of packaging and design is really more about “the living room” than that specific customer they’re targeting.
I could have consoles, and I choose not to because I have a large Steam library and, as OP said, they’ve earned my trust.
Makes sense.