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Agreed, but the meat thing isn't really up for debate tho. Food production is like 30% of global emissions and meat is almost 60% of that. Add in the fact that the agg industry is functionally responsible for basically all ecosystem collapse (massive footprint, pesticides, chemicals, etc...) and we absolutely have to minimize it ASAP. As in, right now.
Halting meat production is a layup. That's not going to change no matter what our wealth distribution looks like.
Lol, if it's registered and you've ever registered to vote you're already on a list
Spoons are a scam invented by Big Bowl to sell more bowls. We should be sticking our hands (nature's bowl) in the communal cooking bowl like God intended.
I did skim through, it's entirely focused on the Democrat failure as opposition with no acknowledgement of his/his employers culpability on hyper-normalization. If he cares so much, he could do something with his platform beyond hitting the same worn out Democrat punching bad that they've hammered for decades.
"Stop acting like this is normal" says rag sane washing every step in our descent to fascism
Can someone explain how we might get anything close to a legitimate release of this evidence? There's no oversight now that the administration has gutted every department. Can they not just stall as long as they want while they forge some fake documents that incriminate political opponents?
[Apologies in advance for the essay]
I think your description is utopian because it distills civilization (and by extension the universe) into a stable system in an ideal balance. Any society has to exist within its material constraints and those limits invariably devolve and shift through entropy.
Socialism (and basically all early-modern political theory) was born in a time of incredible scientific advancement. It has an implicit axiom that all factors can be solved and accounted for, and by doing so we can asymptomatically approach a perfect society.
But we know a lot more now and can prove that's just not possible. Our physical reality imposes instability on society whether we like it or not. An unstoppable, aggressive blight could destroy the agricultural output of an entire continent. Suddenly it's just not possible to give to each according to their need and only the most insular and asocial pockets of civilization survive.
There's no amount of creativity or human goodwill that can weather the unfathomable forces beyond our control. I mean, what happens to our carefully crafted socialist society when the earth's magnetic poles flip. Or when the moon finally drifts away from the earth and permanently ends our seasonal stability. Or when the sun explodes or we deplete Earth's finite resources or etc...
I don't say all of this to be unreasonably pessimistic or nihilistic, but to point out that these ideological theories are fundamentally unsound. Our current world does desperately need these socialist policies, but dogmatic adherence to them as indelible rules is counter productive.
In my opinion we should focus on instilling basic guiding principles and solve our problems in any way that satisfies as many as possible. Some off the top of my head, in a rough ordering:
- Maximize political engagement and representation
- Minimize our ecological footprint and don't develop an over reliance on any resource
- Preserve and extend our scientific knowledge
- Delegate labor and distribute resources as equitably as possible
- Limit restrictions on personal freedom
You'll almost never be able to satisfy every principle, but establishing something like that as a baseline allows for good faith discussion and decision-making without the need to villify your opposition.
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Idk, worked for me. Different strokes
What does this accomplish?
What it's trying to accomplish is forcing you to stop and reassess your priorities. Why are you more upset about blocking a public road or throwing powder on Stonehenge or delaying an F1 race than your ecological future being systematically destroyed? Why do you have such a visceral reaction to these relatively trivial disruptions and not the looming destruction of your entire way of life?
They should go throw paint on yachts and private jets [...] Go protest outside oil company headquarters or outside government buildings
They have done these things and it doesn't do much beyond slightly annoying some rich people. Has any legislation or public effort been advanced from decades of standing outside of government buildings? Has throwing paint on yachts made the rich repent? Has blocking oil pipelines made oil companies dissolve?
Clearly demonstrations against the people who gain the most by this destructive system don't work, why not bring the message to those who will lose the most?
Weird way to "listen" by suppressing their voices. Zero Covid was the "right call" in a narrow lens of limiting direct disease transmission, but it was completely untenable as a true long term strategy and had no foresight.
The protests weren't due to solely to the restrictions on personal freedom, it was also the total lack of sane administration and fallback plans. The enforcement, quarantine logistics and vaccine rollout were entirely scattershot. The government had no realistic approach to the problem beyond rigid policing.
When their authority to enforce the policy was stretched to its limits they did an about face and pretended the problem didn't exist, leaving their vulnerable populations in the lurch with no offramp. The core problem of inept administration was completely unaddressed. I wouldn't give them credit for "listening to the protesters" any more than I would give Tsar Nicholas credit for listening to his striking workers.
COVID lockdowns when minor protests broke out
"Solve" is an interesting verb for suppression of legitimate mass discontent at being physically locked into their apartments. That "solution" worked so well for those "minor protests" that they decided to do a 180° turn from the Zero Covid policy to no restrictions overnight.
Truly a bastion of free speech, except for any real discontent is labeled capitalist subterfuge so we'll just disregard that.
I have! Have you been on it in China? Have you contrasted the foreign feed to a citizen's? Have you seen the coordinated response to genuine spreading political discontent vs mundane petty scandals? Because it kinda sounds like you haven't if you think that's a killer response.
Never claimed to be any kind of China expert but it's absurd to claim "much more open discourse" if you've spent any appreciable amount of time in the countries being discussed. You can literally just walk + talk in public and see the difference.
Like all these asserted freedoms it just magically happens better and free'er but you definitely can't verify it because "media". The open political discourse I see and hear in major EU/US cities pales in comparison to the uh... hidden... open discourse in T1/T2 Chinese cities? Definitely heard some first/second hand political discourse but it was never, ever, ever a public forum.
By all means, give me evidence to the contrary. Maybe I just keep catching China with a bad case of the Mondays. Have you been? Can you point to any discourse on domestic politics? Where is the asserted diversity of opinion on hotbed issues? Can you show me any strong opposition to the party line on a public stage?
Crazy how you can literally just look this stuff up and find out what's true instead of discarding arguments.
Independent trade unions are illegal in China. The single, state sanctioned trade union is widely criticized by international trade union orgs for not faithfully representing its workers. By most accounts it exists to funnel labor disputes through a bureaucratic meat grinder of mediation to maintain the status quo. With the exception of a handful of actions for international leverage, all strikes are wildcat.
If you're actually interested in labor relations in China I'd recommend this article for starters. It's older but the situation hasn't improved under recent leadership.
Complete list of banned books in the US
Lmao what? Do you know what "banning" a book means? It's just not on offer in schools or a library for that specific state. It's completely normal to just buy it for yourself and there are even organizations dedicated to distributing banned books.
It's hilarious to try and dunk on America with this of all things. Media restricted/censored in China is entirely unavailable. It's actually very interesting how the censorship manifests in daily life, but I imagine any .ml reader will discard those anecdotes (or any verifiable reports) and try to redirect back to the West somehow.
Another way to look at it: we're already over the climate brink. Your future won't have cheap/stable meat access no matter what. We can either clutch our hotdogs right up until supply chain collapse makes mass meat farming untenable or proactively discard them to make a slight difference (in conjunction with other big changes).