Steve Dice

Bye.

Sorry that my mean words hurt you more than Valve abusing you.

Your search turned up nothing because you searched for nothing. Steam Keys are irrelevant here, you only keep bringing them up to derail the discussion to a greyer area where you can better defend your beloved corporate overlord. This was always about the price veto policy. Very telling how you flat out refuse to even address anything regarding that topic. Grow up.

No, it’s not. That’s an entirely different policy that you keep bringing up for no reason. That policy is also anti-consumer bullshit but I digress. What I’m referring to is the following shady wording:

Initial pricing as well as proposed pricing adjustments will be reviewed by Valve

I know you didn’t google anything or you would have said “nothing I found substantiates your point” instead of “these specific two articles don’t say what you said”.

But let’s assume you’re not lying and you did look up the situation. What’s your claim then? That Steam has no price veto policy or that they don’t abuse it? Because one is wrong and the other is incredibly naive. Talk about taking unfounded claims at face value.

Also, why do you keep bringing up Steam Keys? That has nothing to do with anything. Focus.

No, I think you deserve to be insulted because you are talking out of your ass about something you didn’t read. Again, this is about the price veto policy. This is not about Steam Keys (here’s me hoping italics help with your dyslexia).

And yeah, I thought you meant runescape on the EGS not on their site. It doesn’t matter because it has zero bearing on the discussion, I only addressed it because you didn’t read the thing you’re talking about.

Ah, the classic spoon-feed me the answer or it doesn’t count as a source. Learn to use the internet, you’re not a child.

Again, this is not about Steam Keys, it’s about Steam using shady contracts to bully developers into price parity on completely unrelated stores. Yes, runescape is cheaper on Epic, the incredibly broad nature of these rules that allows for selective wishy-washy enforcing is also part of the lawsuit.

If you see something I am missing from the lawsuit please let me know, preferably without the hostility if you can manage.

The whole thing because you didn’t read it and, given that you keep bringing up Steam Keys, which is not what we’re talking about, I’m skeptical that you can read at all.

Yes, Valve enforcing price parity only when it’s convenient for them is also addressed in the lawsuit.

The rest of your comment refers to Steam Keys. That’s literally not what we’re talking about.

Yes. That is exactly the issue. It’s not only Steam Keys either as some of the cultists would have you believe. Valve does require you to offer Steam Keys on other stores at the same price that you offer the game on Steam but that’s not all. Now, while they don’t specifically forbid you to offer different prices on stores that have nothing to do with Steam, they do reserve the right (do whatever the hell you want with this one simple trick!) to veto pricing on Steam for any reason. This has been historically used by Valve to block games that offer better pricing on competing stores. It goes something like this:

1. I make a game and decide I want to make $7 per sale so I publish it on my site at $7.
2. I want the game to be accessible to a wider audience so I publish it on other stores.
3. Epic takes 12% so I price it at $8 there in order to keep making $7 per sale
4. Steam takes 30% so I price it at $10 there for the same reason.
5. Valve says $10 isn’t a fair price and refuses to elaborate why, reminding me that they reserve the right to veto any price on Steam for any reason.
6. I make my game $10 on all other stores
7. Valve magically decides $10 was actually a fair price all along and finally publishes the game on Steam.

Only if you are selling a steam key elsewhere

No. That’s not true. You’re spreading misinformation. Read the fucking lawsuit.

Nobody said anything about Steam keys. They don’t let you sell games at lower prices, period.

Also, there is no mention of said policy in either the OP article, nor the separate article about the lawsuit it links to.

Are you being serious, right now? The source isn’t 2 clicks away so therefore it doesn’t exist? Lawsuits are literally public knowledge. You should inform yourself about a topic before you get into a conversation about it.

Here. Perhaps you can stop defending the billion dollar company now.

Charge 20-30% extra on Steam and call it done.

Steam doesn’t let you do that. This is literally what the lawsuit is about.

Here. For anyone who values facts over sensionalism.

I think you’re confused. The 2600 is 575 years away.

That kind of van looks so sketchy it might as well have “free candy” written on the side, so I don’t know if there ever was a not awkward time for a white male to be driving one.

Yes, very original.

Yes. Perpetuating sexist and transphobic gender roles is massive bigotry. You are a bigot.

He strikes me more as a pull

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