I should have heeded that warning

I made it 45 seconds

THIS IS MY SALVATION

SUFFOCATION

NO BREATHING

FORGIVE ALL YOUR SINS AS I’M ON THE CROSS BLEEDING

“Heh, you made one mistake… Your safety’s on.”

Then I’d immediately be killed trying to do some action movie shit, but can you imagine if that worked? That would be sick

You still haven’t responded about the real money part lmfao

the point of a slot machine from the players perspective isn’t colors moving, which is the only common theme between the two.

This is how I know you’re full of shit. The only common theme between a slot machine and a gacha game/loot box is that colors move? How about the fact that it’s a device that heavily incentivises you continuously spend real money to attempt to get a randomly determined result, with the most desirable results being the least common?

Whether happy meals are a form of gambling could be an interesting discussion, if you were a smarter and nicer person. Lootboxes and gacha games super duper duper duper duper are though

It’s like saying a horse is a tree because they’re both brown.

No, it’s like saying gachapon games are gambling because they let players spend real money to get a randomly determined result, with the most desirable results being the rarest, triggering the same reward system in the brain that other forms of gambling do, which is harmful to children not just because it triggers those reward systems, but because it entices them to spend real money on more rolls.

The reason I don’t consider Diablo a form of gambling is because you aren’t heavily encouraged to try to get every legendary item, and even if you really want a particular one, you can’t just pull out your credit card and spend minutes at a time dropping real money on more rolls. You have to put in effort. You have to play the game.

ETA: I’m going to go ahead and say happy meals aren’t a form of gambling, because a) results are all equally likely, b) you aren’t heavily encouraged to collect any particular reward, and most importantly c) you can simply ask a cashier for a particular reward. Imagine if you could just ask the dealer to give you 21 in blackjack, or ask the slot machine for a jackpot

You still haven’t responded to the part about the real money slot machine

Almost like you know you’re full of shit

I didn’t say anything about an echo chamber dude, try again. Maybe try responding to the first paragraph about player characters being locked behind a digital slot machine that you can pay real money to spin.

That’s not an accurate summary of what I said. Being factually correct isn’t being part of a hive mind lmfao

You’re sitting here arguing that 2+2 actually doesn’t equal 4, and I’m done trying to explain that it does. Please learn to read past a kindergarten level someday

If player characters in Diablo were locked inside a digital slot machine that you could pay real money to spin, and players were heavily incentivized to do so because you can’t reasonably expect to get all of the best characters without spending a bunch of real life money on spins, you would have a point.

You should really try to seek out other viewpoints. Literally every discussion about this topic overwhelmingly agrees that gacha games are gambling.

OP didn’t mean to make us sad :(

It’s not gambling, it just happens to function literally exactly the same as a slot machine, except that instead of getting money back on a jackpot, you get digital clothes and player characters

It is literally gambling you twit

❌ Incorrect

An analogy is not an equation. If most of a movie is G-rated, but it incorporates 10 minutes of hardcore sex, then the movie isn’t suitable for children. If most of a game is E-rated, but it incorporates gambling, then the game isn’t suitable for children.

Most of the game isn’t gambling, to pretend otherwise is just silly.

Just because most of the [game/movie] is suitable for kids doesn’t mean the [game/movie] as a whole is suitable for kids. Do you see how both of those things share that similarity, despite not being morally equivalent?

*Edited to more precisely and concisely make my point

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The reading comprehension situation is crazy

LaLuzDelSol does not think cosmetic loot boxes are comparable to porn. They were making an analogy, not an equation. “A is like B in that C” does not imply that A is morally equivalent to B, it means that they share a similarity. In this case, “putting 10 minutes of hardcore sex in an otherwise g-rated film” is like “incorporating gambling into an otherwise child-friendly game,” in that “even if the majority of the work is child-friendly, the not-child-friendly aspects make the work as a whole not child-friendly.”

You should know better than to assume that the average Lemmy user understands analogies. Lemmy users are generally pretty smart when it comes to technology, but not when it comes to interpersonal communication or politics

I give websites as little personally identifiable information as I reasonably can. It takes 33 bits of personal info to narrow you down to one individual, and I’m already open about the fact that I’m a white guy in my late twenties living in the north side of Wichita Kansas. That already narrows me down to one of like 50,000 people

I have a note on my phone for keeping track of what my birthday is on different platforms

Yeah, that is lie 48 characters that we’d had to pass by phone and they have to type it flawlessly.

Wouldn’t be so bad if everyone knew their Alpha Bravo Charlies

My one talent: alpha bravo charlie delta echo foxtrot golf hotel India Juliet kilo Lima mike November Oscar papa Quebec Romeo Sierra tango uniform Victor whiskey x-ray Yankee Zulu, typed using voice to text

The Constitution says there’s also no law against actively and loudly not doing business with the companies