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Our News Team @ 11 with host Snot Flickerman


Yes, I can hear you, Clem Fandango!

  • Oh gee shocker it looks like those of us who tried to sound the alarm during the Bush and Obama years that these laws and these surveillance systems could be and would be turned on us were right all along!

    It fucking sucks being right all the time. I can't even get any enjoyment out of being able to say "I told you so" because most don't even remember being told fifty fucking times.

    I think a lot about the day I argued with my coworkers that if we allowed Bush to give Hank Paulson a cool $700 billion to bail out the banks no strings attached that we were just kicking the can down the road and the economy for regular folks would suffer over time because we enabled bad behavior and taught banks that as long as they were too big to fail they would be bailed out by taxpayer money. I wonder if any of them even remember being told what obviously has come to pass as the lower classes have been increasingly hollowed out during the time since then.

    I just can't even anymore living among all these fucking dimwits who aren't even paying attention and just drifting through life like none of this even matters. I'm not smart enough for everyone else to be this fucking stupid.

  • NYT also sat on the story about NSA wiretapping US citizens for over a year at the behest of the Bush admin. Later, DNI Clapper would deny that spying on Americans happened "wittingly," a denial which would push Edward Snowden to leak information thst proved otherwise.

  • Misleading as a college diploma isn't as much of an indicator of this as this article pretends. Plenty of college degree havers are just scraping by, too.

    Like, I have a degree, but I've been fucked out of even using it for anything because the healthcare system is so fucked up and I have cancer and it makes more financial sense to be in abject poverty and have Medicaid cover my treatments instead of working and going deep into debt trying to pay for the treatments.

  • I worked in news media in the Bush years and I got to see first hand how our national news promoted the lies coming from the Bush administration and helping spearhead support for an Iraq invasion.

    The media has been a problem for a long time.

  • Insert Lucille Bluth quote here.

  • You're gonna have to link that Parkinson's news.

  • Why am I completely not surprised that he was speaking to Bobby Kotick?

  • "I want that report on my table first thing tomorrow morning, Cloth"

    "But sir-"

    "On my table, Cloth!"

  • I'm not a UK native, so that's very likely, I always thought it was just any situation where your poo is touching your underwear.

  • Six Degrees of Investigation

  • I'm not from Britain but I've heard the phrase "touching cloth" from over there.

  • Isn't wireguard already pretty easy???

    Also unless it changed I thought Plexamp was only available to Plex Pass subscribers.

  • I mean, he really is though.

  • Thankfully turns out he had a leash that ended before statuatory rape. Good dog.

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  • There's a fart sound around 33s and then a mushy plop sound around 44s when he's shaking hands with Mehmet Oz.

  • Including finally admitting that we need to hold those who failed to do their duty in holding these people accountable just as accountable.

    Obama was a good President in a lot of ways, sure, but he didn't dismantle the surveillance state under which we are now living. He paved the way for someone like Trump by not wanting to look political in pressing his DOJ to prosecute the architects of the US extraordinary rendition and torture networks. Biden is culpable in handing the reigns to Merrick Garland and never replacing him with someone who was going to take this threat seriously.

    Probably an unpopular opinion, but I think the people who frankly abdicated their duty to hold these people accountable are absolutely just as accountable because their lack of action led us down this dark path just as much as the horrible actions of those directly responsible.

  • I mean, I'd have to dig up the article, but Slavoj Zizek posited that this was the case around the time that Edward Snowden leaked all his information, and Chelsea Manning had already released all hers, and the evidence of the USA committing torture in the middle east was readily available. He made the case that for some reason, putting the truth out there just didn't matter anymore. It didn't cause revolutions, it didn't cause people to rise up, and it didn't change anything. A small number of low level soldiers were imprisoned for the torture, but the architects of the program and authors of the legal reasoning all still walk free and are often writing Op-Eds, such as John Yoo. The first post on reddit ever was The Downing Street memo which laid out the US and UK's plans to manufacturer a reason to invade Iraq. Obama himself said "we need to look forward, not backward" in regards to the idea of prosecuting the Bush administration officials with signing off on torture, which they most assuredly did. Nothing fundamentally changed after the Snowden leaks, either, we're literally living through the mass surveillance of Americans being turned into a sprawling plan to control and abuse the populace right now. AT&T never got in real trouble for handing over their communications to the NSA without a warrant. To quote Joe Biden "Nothing will fundamentally change."

    Outisde of the USA it happens, too. Nothing really happened to all the people in the UK government who were breaking COVID quarantine protocols partying it up while their citizens were being forced to shelter in place. Nothing really came of all the evidence that they were having full-on parties during this time.

    I don't think Zizek ever came up with a reason why this is happening, but was rather just noting that it was happening. That at this point in history, leaking information on corruption by governments by and large didn't change anything about how those governments operated. I agreed with him then and I agree with him now. I'm a little surprised that people continue to be surprised.

    It's really rather that with each disclosure the powerful get more brazen in what they can get away with, Trump himself seems to be a symptom of that.

  • I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

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