I read the Wikipedia article on Liberalism and gave you a brief run through of how I feel about it. I agree with some tenants but you’re ignoring that the two of the most impactful parts (economy and private ownership) do not align with me and that it’s not a label I identify with or even use in my political sphere.
Give the same respect to me that I’m giving to you.
You’re absolutely right that I have mixed feelings and am conflicted, I would love to say with 100% confidence that “Iran is different” but I can’t.
Part of the protestors anger is impoverishment caused by sanctions, it was certainly a big factor in this protest and at least a minor factor in every other protest.
But conversely these protests are also fueled by discontent with the treatment of women.
They’re also fueled by the thirsty people who are suffering from poor water management policies that ignored traditional irrigation methods in favor of the western approach of spraying huge amounts into the air to grow water hungry crops in a famously water scarce region. Fuck even Israel was egging on the protestors with the promise of sending water experts once the regime is gone.
I’m not supporting America invading but I do think that there are real humanitarian issues that need to be addressed.
What upsets me most is not that the rest of the world is silent and only “brave and compassionate” America is speaking against them, its that the Iranian people only have America to turn to, that the only countries that are “on their side” (from the view of the public) are America and Israel.
This regime is so quick to label any unrest in the country as foreign meddling but they themselves are the cause for half of the problems.
(also thank you for engaging me in good faith)
I called it American because it’s not a term that’s used in my political sphere and one that doesn’t apply to me.
To avoid being mislabeled as a liberal myself I’ll say specifically that in my personal politics I don’t support a market economy but instead a mixed economy where the basic needs of the people are met by the government and either free or subsidised (think housing, transport, water, electricity, food). I don’t support the hoarding of private property by the wealthy along with the subsequent housing market manipulation.
What I do support is political freedom, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, freedom of religion, and freedom of expression.
I have other stances and beliefs outside the narrow frame of “liberal” too if anyone has any specific questions.
Great thanks again for ignoring everything else I said and deciding for yourself what I think without asking a single question.
Thanks for applying your preconceived political label to me, very reductive. I don’t use American political labels like that and if you want to get an actual idea of my stance ask specific questions.
They’re not expats, they’re refugees that left as soon as they turned 18, and spent years living in Turkey with other Iranian refugees. It was the best place for them (more open socially but still easy for them to get to) to live until Erdogan started becoming more aggressive with deporting refugees and they had to leave Turkey too. Their parents, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc are still there and are in active contact. Thank you again for making a sweeping generalisation instead of asking a question or even reading my other comments.
You’re right that sanctions are a form of economic warfare, totally agree that it only truly hurts the people. But tell me this, can economic prosperity translate into a better life for the people when women are beaten and abducted on the street by the government funded morality police? When by law a womans life is worth half that of a man? When a man can exploit that to get away with murder by killing a woman from a poor family that can’t afford to pay for him to be punished and are forced to accept compensation payment from him? When all women are legally owned by their fathers and husbands?
This most recent round of protests was sparked by economic woes yes, but what about the Green Movement? What about the Mahsa Amini protests? Mahsa Amini especially you should be aware of, it was only 3-4 years ago that millions across the country were furious about her death in police custody for not adhering to mandatory hijab rules. And yes, after protesting for months, after hundreds died and thousands were arrested, and multiple individuals were executed, the government graciously relaxed the hijab rules. If you’re from the west looking in that story ends in a nice little neat package. If you’re a woman in Iran then that brief whiff of freedom doesn’t last long, and slowly but surely that freedom is gradually eroded until you’re back where you were before the protests. The only existing remnant of that is the fact women in rich parts of the cities wont be immediately abducted by the morality police for having a little hair on display.
Please to anyone else replying, approach me with enough respect to read my paragraphs before deciding who I am and what I think.
I am more than happy to have a discussion, I’ve tried to outline my views and understanding of the situation in a clear and concise way and I invite any and all questions made in good faith.
My personal politics do not even remotely align with America, even on Iran I’m fully aware that America has only selfish intentions, and am appalled by it.
This is the first time in my adult life that I’ve even considered an invasion to be in any way beneficial (which would only be a by-product in this situation) But the Iranians around me are telling me their choices are either:
Please tell me what you think the international community should be doing? After Russia it’s already the most sanctioned country in the world, and those sanctions have contributed to the discontent that fuels these protests.
Imagine having a nuanced opinion? Crazy
Don’t misunderstand, I’m not American, I don’t support America, in my personal and professional life I’ve been making every reasonable effort to decouple my life from America (hence why I’m on Lemmy)
I didn’t even say that I support America invading.
The reality of Iran is that every few years since the 1979 revolution the people become discontent enough to start protesting, and every time the government harshly cracks down on those protests, and in both the process and the after math, many people are killed by the government for protesting. That’s an oversimplification but serves to illustrate my point.
My knowledge and understanding is based on my Iranian friends, who fled the country as refugees and left their friends and families behind, because of the oppressive government.
Those same friends do not like America, but they aren’t left with any other options but to support America. Not a day goes by that they don’t complain about the willful ignorance of the European Union and the world at large for being silent, only last week did the EU even decide to label the IRGC as a terrorist group.
The UN and international courts should be the ones trying to intervene and at the very least stop the regime killing tens of thousands of their own people.
I’m no fan of American imperialism either but the regime in Iran is actively massacring their civilians on a scale never before seen during protests, I have Iranian friends and they know full well that America and Israel don’t have their best interests at heart, and yet they still want them to intervene because they don’t see any other way for change to happen. My Iranian friends don’t even really like Reza Pahlavi but he’s the most significant figure in these protests and so they’re supporting him purely in solidarity with the people.
It’s a very complicated and nuanced situation and it can’t really be reduced to a meme like this without losing important context.
Yeah I figured that might be the case. It was in the works for a while available on their community servers, but the server beta just came out in October, I’m going try it out myself this weekend too
Oh yeah when I was living in my uni dorm my rice cooker was a lifesaver, used it to cook everything! Rice, pasta, soup, even put a mini frozen pizza in and managed to cook the bottom and steam the top enough that it was reasonably edible. Was dealing with a lot of burnout and other stuff and just couldn’t deal with the chaos and unpredictability of a communal kitchen shared with 50 other people, so the rice cooker helped prevent me from wasting all my money on eating out and ready meals
The physics behind the cheap basic ones is really clever! no sensors, timers, computer bits. just using the laws of physics to cook and automatically turn off
Definitely, even if you can’t afford a fancy zojirushi just a cheap one is so handy and works really well, I just have to make sure to wash my rice and lentils well so that it doesnt bubble up and make a mess
May not be a ton of use to you but like someone else mentioned frozen vegetables can be a great idea. They’re pretty consistent in texture and size and if you struggle with executive functioning (there can be a lot of prep and steps in a meal) they’re great. I value convenience and simplicity a lot so my go-to healthy meal is one that takes maybe 40 mins but most of that is just letting it cook.
I have a cheap rice cooker, I add equal parts rice and red split lentils (they cook at the same rate), water, frozen vegetables (I go with carrots and onions since they’re cheap), a splash of olive oil, some spices, salt, and lemon juice just because I like a bit of acidity.
I give them a quick mix and let it go until the pot says it’s ready. I’ll also make enough for 2 or 3 meals so I can easily reheat some in the microwave later. It’s pretty cheap, easy, and in that one meal alone I’m getting 3 of my 5 a day.
This is the real answer, most people don’t care but they like banding together and having someone else be the “other group”
I’m not sure if your post is about you, but I think it is so I’m going to reply as such, but if it’s not I apologise.
There’s no single way to define anyone, autistic or not, but if you’re exhibiting fawning behaviors and shy away from confrontation it can be perceived as lacking conviction, confidence, a firm sense of self. This isn’t exclusive to autistic people.
When I think of a “Nice Guy” I think of someone that is performatively nice to women, not for the sake of being nice, but to achieve a more underhanded goal (i.e. sleeping with them). One way this can happen is by fawning over them and love bombing. The niceness comes with conditions and so it’s not authentic.
All that aside, I think you have a warped idea of what a “Nice Guy” is. People don’t go so far as to think about “hidden strength, quiet intensity, or restrained anger”, it’s probably more surface level. If they feel uneasy it’s more likely because they can’t read your mood or emotions, and are concerned about you suddenly going into a rage with no warning signs.
The seeds are annoying too
Maybe next time
I plead the fifth 🙋
I never lost it
The thing about Arsenal is, they always try to walk it in!