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  • As immoral as creating it was.The immorality is habitat destruction and negligently killing.The garbage patch isn't intrinsically bad, beyond being ugly, which is an aesthetic rather than moral judgement. It's bad because of the impact it has in the life around it. If life has adapted to live on it it's no longer purely damaging. If they adapt such that more benefit than are harmed then cleanup would be more damaging than beneficial.

    A real example is the USS Arizona. If we were given the choice, we shouldn't have sunk a massive battleship with 1.5 million gallons of oil onboard.Now though, it's become a coral reef and is full of life that would be destroyed if we removed the ship (to say nothing of the risk of spilling the remaining 500,000 gallons of oil).

    Nothing is ecologically dependent on the garbage patch though, and it's most likely to remain that way for the foreseeable future, so it's a moot point in the end.

  • Because disabling JS is unheard of in the open source world, right?

    They implemented a feature that breaks the website for people who otherwise have no issues while providing no functional value to the site "rather than spending time building their actual product that people want to use."

    It's one thing to expect them to do special work to support an uncommon configuration, and it's another to feel frustrated that they did extra work to break a less common but still unremarkable configuration.

    I entirely support people not wanting bots to scrape their shit, but there's a handful of websites I use that use this specific blocking software and it frequently gets angry and blocks me if I'm on my phone for no good reason. It's annoying, and getting angry at the user for being upset that your website is broken is about the only thing more unreasonable than demanding that an open source developer do work for you for free.

  • I wouldn't call that "seething", the project is targeting an English speaking audience (English is the source, other languages are translation targets), effectively no one is a native speaker of Esperanto, and it's usage is small enough that someone could quite possibly never encounter the language.Bad project names are common enough in programming and open source, and complained about, that I wouldn't jump right to xenophobia as the reason someone might complain that a project picked a name knowing it would be difficult to pronounce.

    They can name it whatever they want, but getting that angry that someone didn't recognize a word in an anglisiced spelling of a word from a niche language is uncalled for.

  • The parts of your brain involved in symbolic language are less active when you're asleep, and since interfaces like that are basically all symbols your brain has a hard time understanding any symbols it remembers or making sense of anything it can put together. The part that remembers stuff is still going strong though.So basically you know what a computer is and how it should work, but you're trying to use an interface you've never used before in a language you don't speak that was designed by a person with uncertain notions about where icons and windows should go or how they move.

    In most cases it's easier for the dream to just say "and then you clicked the button to do the thing", like it does with signs and stuff.

  • Right. The goal isn't to make it so no one has more than anyone else, it's to ensure that everyone has enough and no one has so much more than anyone else that they can mess up society on a whim, and that people aren't being exploited.

    You want there to be a reward for hard work, creativity, innovation and all that. Just actually proportional to the value being added as opposed to what they can get away with.

    I don't begrudge a person who has worked hard and had something they started become successful a more-than-comfortable and early retirement. It's when they just had money and used it to make more money, or showed up did little and got fired with millions of compensation that I'm really bothered.

  • No, unless it's your argument that the kids were the source of the violent crime.

  • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meitiv_incidents

    Tldr: Officials clarified that it's fine and they shouldn't have been bothered beyond police asking the kids if they were okay in response to a call.

    The police and CPS responded because someone called the cops, who are required to respond in some way and then to document the case. The reporting code for "report of unsupervised child" is intended to be "neighbors haven't seen the parents in several days, but they noticed the kid moving around the house and were concerned". Sometimes it's not okay for kids to be alone.So the police responded because someone called, and then gave them a ride home and filled their report. CPS got the report because the only category it fit in was one they are supposed to investigate. They did their investigation because the law says if you're under eight you must be supervised by someone at least 13, and because they were in violation they had to do their follow-ups, which are invasive because they're geared towards actual issues and there's no way to delicately inspect someone's home and interview their children.When it happened again at the park, there was now a report on file for a CPS investigation that was still in progress, so now it's "parents being investigated for neglect getting another report of the same behavior", which means that now the presumption is that the parents aren't capable of following a directive to not do the behavior that started the investigation , so instead of sending them home and then sending an officer to see what's up they're going to hold them until they can determine safety. Which they were, but all the people see is "they were instructed and agreed to not leave them unsupervised until we finished and we got a concerned report about them being left unsupervised".Eventually officials clarified that CPS was incorrect, and that the laws wording and intent was to prevent young children from being unsupervised in vehicles and structures, not parks, sidewalks or in public. No leaving your 7 year old home alone or in the car.

    First incident is on the busybody who called the cops and the CPS people who didn't just leave and drop it when they learned they weren't left behind at home or in a car, and that the sidewalk and park weren't like, a highway median and an industrial park.

    Second incident is a little more on them. Preposterous or not, they were explicitly and legally informed they needed to not do that until CPS got back to them, and they agreed to do so. It was still more of an ordeal than it should have been, but you should generally not be surprised when they respond poorly to you doing what they just told you not to do.You can be entirely in the right and end up in more trouble for not following instructions during the process of figuring that out.

  • I think the difference might be that you're thinking of standards that say "if you do A and B and C then you're a good ___". Happens with prescriptive education standards that are tied tightly with budget.I'm thinking of standards like "failure to A or B or C, or doing X or Y or Z makes you an unacceptable ___". It's what you see in restaurants and hospital hygiene standards. Any restaurant "cleaning to the test" and only going down the food safety list and correcting any issue is both the type that would just be filthy without those standards, and also would end up serving safe food. Same for doctors and hand washing. We would rather all doctors be deeply committed to hygiene, but we have real world data that mandating hygiene minimums and doing things to enforce them has measurable increases in patient well-being. Same for building safety standards and such.

    people just go through the motions devoid of thinking and intent :) Now they also can go: I followed the flowchart what more do you want

    In a system with the standard, those people are providing better care than they would be without them.

  • Yeah, standards for care isn't "teaching for the test". You don't overfocus on "don't change diapers in the food prep area" or "tell the parents if you use the first aid kit" and somehow end up neglecting care.I take my kids to a legal daycare. That means I know people who work there and are nearby have been certified in pediatric CPR and first aid within the past year. That they do fire drills. That they have a policy for when sick kids need to go home and when they can come back.

    It's not about a law forcing people to care, it's about establishing a baseline. If a caregiver I haven't met swaps in for one I know I don't have to learn their standards on the spot.

    It's odd to be opposed to standards.

  • Well that seems quite odd. Most developed countries have standards for childcare settings, including defining minimums for activity and incident logging.Finding regulations was difficult, but it seems that Belgium just has lower quality childcare than even the US, according to the UN. https://www.unicef.org/innocenti/reports/where-do-rich-countries-stand-childcare

    Color me surprised. I kind of assumed if we had standards that anyone else would have similar or better standards.

  • And over how many children? So 30 kids 5 seconds each

    You literally said 30 kids.

    https://childcare.gov/consumer-education/regulated-child-care/supervision-ratios-and-group-sizes

    Staff:Child Ratio Group Size Infants: Younger than 12 months old 1 adult should care for no more than 3 infants No more than 6 infants in a group or class Toddlers: 13–35 months old 1 adult should care for no more than 4 toddlers No more than 8 toddlers in a group or class

    For kids wearing diapers 8:1 is really pushing it and probably illegal anywhere in the US.

    You talk about being required to log stuff when it's just something you keep track of when watching kids that age. They have routines, and they can't tell you their needs. You keep track of that stuff because you know their routine and it tells you where they are in it. 1:1 you can just remember. The second you add another adult you need to share data.Many jurisdictions require logging (page 16) because it's best practice.Using a computer just makes it easier and makes it so the checkout conversation can be entirely the qualitative report and conversation you seem to want it to be.

    You're seemingly just declaring something to be an onerous burden and pointless when it's simply not.

  • Going based on my kids daycare, it's really not a problem. You're talking 30:1 kids to caregivers, and 8:1 is over the legal limit.

    Like, I've hung out in the daycare. I've talked to the caregivers. It's not nearly the way you seem to think. They like it because it's easier than the documentation they would be keeping for their own purposes.I'm typing this having just gotten back from dropping the kids off with them and hanging out chatting for a bit.

    If the kid fell and bumped his head, I'm sure they are spending about five minutes logging and tending to them. Probably 20 seconds typing after 3 or 4 minutes putting an ice pack on it, giving them a hug and letting them sit on their lap.

  • Are you this unaware of how people actually function?I wouldn't go so far as to call it braindead, because that just needlessly antagonistic, but we have a lot of evidence that people forget truly important things all the time, particularly in a setting where a group of people are working together to care for others.Nurses and doctors will forget they administered medication and give double doses. People will forget that they needed to toss the spinach from the line because it's coming up to its safe lifetime and get people sick.It's why we have checklists and logs where we write stuff down.If my local coffeeshop has a checklist and log where they document cleaning the bathroom and doing a deep clean on the espresso maker, why on earth would it be unreasonable for the significantly more important job of "caring for babies" to also do so?

  • Oh, I assumed you thought people were spending a lot of time entering timestamps. Do you think this is a particularly onerous process for them, or that the parents need to like, acknowledge each log? They just push a button to select the kid and tap another to select the event. Maybe type a description if it's an incident report. It's significantly easier for them than logging it any other way, and it ensures parents get the information on food, diapers and whatnot.

    I am confused how you see this as care by flowchart. Daycare staff aren't medical professionals. They aren't qualified to make objective decisions about what's an "important" event to notify parents of in a consistent manner. What country are you in where the parental notification laws are "I dunno, if you feel like it I guess"?

  • 30 times 5 seconds is 2.5 minutes, and that's for a stupendously overworked person. Like "CPS call" levels of understaffing at what would be an unlicensed facility.A more realistic number is under a minute per hour.

  • It's an app. Do you actually think they're manually entering the time? The app is probably just rounding to the nearest 10 for display purposes. There's also a legal obligation to fill out an incident report.You're caring for someone else's child and the law says if you felt the need to do something (ice pack) then the parents deserve documentation with timeline and response. Do you have a different criteria that's good for when a non-medical caregiver should need to tell a parent something happened to their kid?

  • Have you ever actually been to a daycare as an adult?

    They're not tracking timestamps by hand, they're going up to a tablet, tapping baby name and then tapping diaper/wet or started nap.

    Having a sense of how often a kid is eating, sleeping and going to the bathroom is really important because those are health indicators and they can't tell you how they feel. The caretakers are going to take notes one way or another and give them to the parents so they can be aware of any trends.

    They are also subject to surprise inspections government inspectors to verify that they're following the various rules.

    This is seriously just the standard type of logging that anyone tasked with caring for another person is going to be doing.

  • That doesn't seem weirdly detailed to me? Kid bumped their head and they wrote down what happened.

  • I also have kids in daycare, and while they're able to provide ample individual care, once you get past one adult to a specific set of kids and the kids swap between adults it becomes a much greater risk of missing someone's need because they can't communicate it clearly.It also can make it faster to know when something last happened if you weren't the one to do it. If a kids fussy and the person who's been looking after them all morning has gone to lunch you can just look over and see that they got up from a nap recently, got a diaper change and that it's almost time for food.

    It's not about cramming so many kids in that you can barely keep track and more about recognizing that you're caring for someone else's kids and so taking every reasonable step to ensure there aren't mistakes, as well as demonstrating to the parents that you've done so.Our daycare has a list on the wall with the name of every kid in the room next to their evacuation plan and emergency kit (big baby/little baby rooms are connected. Sometimes they rebalance for lunch or just different activities which is when they update the list) I have absolute confidence that in the event of an emergency they wouldn't need to use the list, and also that they would still go down the list and look directly at each kid and also do a sweep while doing whatever response they needed.

    As someone who's done a bit of work on procedures around systems and making sure they avoid negative outcomes I appreciate there being a process and checklist that's routinely followed.

    Also, the digital lists are really more for the parents to be informed about what's going on. I know that I appreciate knowing where precisely they are in their routine when I do pickup.