I hope you get some of these.

FIAT Tipo

FIAT Tipo SW

FIAT 600 This is a full eletric.

FIAT Panda The original version was iconic. It had a full 4x4 version. Current models are stunning.

I tried to discover what was the line-up you have over there and it seems we get more from over there (essentially through the SUV line, from JEEP) than you receive from here.

What vehicles do you get under that badge?

Really? That bad?

FIAT in the 90’s and early 00’s went through a really bad phase, due to Ferrari sinking millions into F1, to the point FIAT Brazil was more active than FIAT Europe developing new models.

FIAT are reliable. A few engines were less than good but FIAT has always been on the forefront of developing new technology into engines and cars. My first car, a cheap model, had direct fuel injection when most other manufacturers were still using carburettors (at best, eletrically controlled).

It’s even a joke between owners that FIAT cars don’t like mechanics but when they start doing, you’re better off changing cars.

Why do you say that? What is so bad with FIAT there?

I’d risk that is true for the US models.

The FIAT umbrella and the PSA line-up in Europe makes for a good chunk of the market with vehicles for all tastes.

So, what we should take from this is that any foray into any art is useless, therefore we should surrender any and all creative impulse to faceless companies.

Fuck no.

I’d rather distribute my work for free and have it read and enjoyed nonetheless than not write at all.

They accomplish that and the already diminutive presence they have in the world will shrink even more.

Today, I was the 1% getting to know something new.

Done!

Hate requires too much emotional investment. What I want is options.

You can’t know everything.

You’re welcome.

It’s a hobby as it is.

If I ever manage to sell enough copies of it to be able to pay for a Kagi subscription, I’ll do it and make it public knowledge.

Read somewhere on the thread Ecosia is part of Bing ecosystem.

That was one of the most out of the blue comments I have ever read. It sounded so… unreal. Something out of a sitcom. Then I read “sugartits” is the name of the lemmy you were replying to. That’s was really top mark. Kudos for you.

Okay.

Now that we already know we are pretty much at the hands of one pupeteer, what options are there?

I already read about Kagi (apologies if mispelled) but I like to write as a hobby and 300 searches per month go fast.

What other options are there?

Edit:

For those who may be arriving now:

• Kagi seems to be a good option for an alternative search engine; it is a paid service, for which I don’t have the €€€ right now. Many speak very well about it.
• SearXNG is a thing as well, to my understanding a decentralized search system. Worth the try, in my opinion. If it’s something that is decentralized, it is worthy to support and divulge.
• There is mojeek.com, supposedly not very good but any option that goes against the monopoly is worth the try! I’m going to try this one.
• Brave.com is an option but is a bit shady.
• You should try Ecosia if you want to support reforestation efforts. Read somewhere in the thread it is part of the Bing ecosystem.
• Yep is a thing as well. Somewhere in the thread, a lemmy points they use the search results for AI trainning. So… That is that.
• And it seems there is a search engine by the name of dogpile.com.
• Startpage is another search engine (portal?) suggested by another user. I’ve used it before and like it. Read somewhere it somehow piped a standard google search but removed tracking and ads.
• and I just remembered Presearch.com. This is a really shady one (crypto warning!) that I suspect is a fork/collab with Brave Browser. I’ve used it, they have reward-per-search reward system (or had) where they give you crypto for every search. Good results, some that don’t come up neither on DDG nor Google.

p.p.s Should I start categorizing these from “shady” to “worthy”?

p.p.s 2 Does anyone remember StumbleUpon? I know it was never a search engine to begin with but it was the best source of good internet content I ever got acquainted to.

Can we get something like that back?

Ouch!

Stronk. The joke is “stronk”.

Come again! We act all Mondays and Fridays!

Nobody is discussion the level on convinience for it, here