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  • Hillary won the popular vote, and Obama was one of our most popular presidents. While yes, sexism and racism played a role in Harris' failure, it wasn't the main problem. Her being a terrible politician, running a terrible campaign, on the coat-tails of a terrible president was the main problem.

  • Do you mean Subverse? Searching for Subspace is just redirecting me to Subverse, but maybe I'm missing it

  • Nice! I use Debian all-day every-day, and I think it's a great starting distro, if a bit dated sometimes. I'd be a little cautious of Debian 13 as it just came out of testing, so it might have some lingering bugs. But if it works for you, then it works :)

  • Don't let the haters get you down. As a long time linux-enthousiast, you are 100% correct. It absolutely still has troubles and doesn't "just work". it's a lot better than it used to be, and it's on a great upwards trajectory!

    But we as a community are overly dismissive of real problems, and I think that does a lot of damage to our reputation.

  • And yet you'll bang your head against the wall of third parties that have failed to achieve anything whatsoever in over 150 years.

    Yes. I still think that is going to be faster than the Democratic leadership changing their core values.

    I don't know of any who were targeted merely for speech...

    This happened during the anti-genocide college protests. He also arrested people who protested his speeches.

  • The democracy where dissidents get arrested and disappeared to foreign prisons or the one where they don't. Where autocratic leaders can get peacefully deposed or the one where they don't.

    Considering that these things happened both under the Democrats and the Republicans, you are going to have to be more specific.

    My argument is you create a situation where democratic leadership either gets removed by intra-party politics and replaced by allies, or existing has no choice but to concede due to pressure from a large organized movement.

    Once again, they've already signaled that they'd rather lose than do this. Fight for it if you want, but I'm not going to waste my time banging my head against the same wall.

  • Then maybe the Dems should stop building the bombs, and handing them to the Republicans.

  • It comes down to whichever outcome you think is more likely to happen. Either:

    A) The Democratic leadership stops resisting, and starts doing what the voters wantorB) A third-party will gain power

    I think B is much more likely, as the Democratic leadership has clearly demonstrated that they'd rather let the Republicans win, than do what the voters want. If you want to try to make A happen, then be my guest. I hope to be proven wrong. But from watching the Dems in the past few decades, it's clear to me that B is more likely.

    They are already moving quickly to end democracy in the US.

    You mean the Democracy where we get to vote for genocide or genocide? or how about the bombing of those kids, vs those other kids? Or how about this mass surveillance system vs that mass surveillance system?

  • IRC is still around! I run my own server and everything. It's still a blast :)

  • Well, what I think is ncecessary to end the duopoly is to show both of them that I'm not going to vote for either of them, until one of them starts to do what I want. And voting 3rd party sends a signal as to what policies they should adopt if they want my vote.

  • I can't even count the amount of times I've sent some variation of "Yeah, so I think we should reboot the server:wq" into irc

  • Obama: "The truth of the matter is that my policies are so mainstream that if I had set the same policies that I had back in the 1980s, I would be considered a moderate Republican."

    I've watched the Democrats move to the right since then

  • Not sure who they think they're winning over with that.

    Their rich donors

  • I'm not sure what causes people to blindly worship the party to the degree that they do...

    It's because politics has become the new "religion" for most people. I grew up in a cult, and the amount of crossover in thinking is astonishing: "Our dear leaders couldn't have done anything wrong, it has to be everyone else that is wrong!"

  • There’s nothing stopping people from getting elected to the party and forcing change.

    Except for, ya know, the Democratic leadership, demonstrably.

  • You are correct that 3rd parties can't win. But how is voting for either of the other two options winning? I've seen both in power for the last few decades, and it's a shit-show either way.

    You may not like the other options, but that doesn't mean that they don't exist.

  • You can keep dancing around the fact that they cheated all you want. I find it very telling that you can't even keep your original argument straight.

  • No, the court agreed that they are allowed to cheat.