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  • While it's broadly accurate that private fire brigades were highly competitive and staunchly capitalist (and exploitative in nature), the idea that any of them would refuse to put out a fire without first being paid has been debunked.

    It's not impossible that it happened on some occasion, but in general this would have been a horrifyingly terrible business decision: not only would they be lambasted by their competitors, but they usually covered at least some of the neighbors of any given burning property. It would have made their jobs infinitely more difficult when it came time to make good on protecting their clients if they let nearby fires grow (and grow they would, very quickly).

    See here for a retraction of a previous piece by Tom Scott on this topic as it relates to the UK, where these stories originated, including reference to a correction of his original source, the London Fire Brigade Museum's webpage. https://youtu.be/Wif1EAgEQKI All of the points made in that video about the UK apply the same to the US, as far as I'm aware

    What DID actually happen was that brigades would send someone to prevent their competitors from putting out the fire before they could arrive (e.g. by blocking access to a hydrant/water main) in an effort to guarantee they would get the payout for putting it out. Similarly shitty, for sure, but not quite the same

  • Go pirate. That's what I do when shit doesn't work.

    I just don't also fool myself into thinking they will ever change their ways so long as it's profitable 🤷

    I'm not saying you're wrong. Nor am I telling you to accept the shitty quality stream as the best you can get. I'm just saying this is how the system is set up right now and it's not a Netflix problem. It's a capitalism problem.

  • Big corps like Netflix only care about supporting the 90% of users to who operate in a bog-standard configuration. They really couldn't care less about supporting things like reverse engineered AirPlay, debloated Windows, Linux running on a Mac, or anything else that's not damn near configured exactly as it was when it was first removed from the box.

    It is not worth the engineering investment to make it work. They would spend more money maintaining these features than they would earn from it.

    You can have whatever opinions you want about that reality, but that's just how it is. Blame capitalism.

  • Oh so you were lying when you said that you condone stealing from Mom and Pop shops that treat their workers like shit?

    You can't even keep your own arguments straight. Completely done with you. Get blocked

  • Lol you think because I don't condone wanton theft and lawlessness, that because I'm not a psycho libertarian it means I support capitalism?

    Quite narrow minded. You lack vision and nuance.

    Sadly for you, existence is more complex than "capitalism bad". Some things with really well as a capitalist venture (like trying to start any endeavor that takes large initial investment to get going because it's only viable when produced at scale). Other things are fucking horrifying to manage as capitalist endeavors (like prison and healthcare and education).

    You're like a puppy, easily distracted by the shiniest thing and unable to hold more than one concept at a time.

    I'm done. I've wasted enough time talking to you, you walking, talking, "is it me who's wrong? No it's them" principal skinner meme 😂

  • So you're an anarchist. You get to decide who deserves to be treated fairly and who doesn't. Cool. If I ever find out who you are I'll rob you blind and say it's all fair because something something wage theft and I don't think you deserve what you have something something. If you get to pick and choose who to steal from then so do I. And we'll all just kill each other over our disagreements. 😬

  • Ahahaha you're really trying to claim an IQ superiority on the internet 😂 Cry more

    Have fun blaming others for your failures Mr $6000/yr High IQ. Whatever helps you sleep at night.

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  • You didn't answer my question at all. What is the line for what is acceptable to steal?

    Are you saying that until there is a fair minimum wage anyone can steal anything and feel no guilt or shame? That it's all okay, ethically and morally, because of the minimum wage?

    That's bonkers, if that's what you're saying. But honestly your entire rant didn't address my question of when theft is okay and when it isn't

  • You are absolutely crazy conspiracy theorist level nuts, you know that? Stop drinking the libertarian Kool-Aid

    I'm not even going to begin to try to break down your comment because there is so much bullshit to unpack but I will at least say this:

    Economics is the study of how people use resources and make decisions, and how those decisions impact the production, distribution, and consumption of goods and services

    That is not a made up science. The conclusions economists draw, the theories they promote, etc can be twisted and manipulated but there are fundamental truths about economics to be found. Calling it a made up science is a rejection of objective truth and makes you sound like a lunatic

  • We have to draw the line somewhere. It is not reasonable to say "anyone can steal anything from anyone if they look homeless".

    Obviously everyone's situation is unique and I won't judge the individual until I know all the context, but I'm not gonna turn a blind eye to someone stealing luxury items from a small business.

  • Sometimes an immediate relief from psychological suffering through the escapism of alcohol is no different than the immediate need for food. Sometimes the alternative is death

    Luxury items that have no cheaper, reasonable alternative are where I draw the line. Alcohol to cope with the chronic pain and psychological suffering that homelessness brings is not really a luxury in my book

  • We're actually talking about this in another reply to my comment haha. Outcome is unknown because he was charged as a minor so literally everything is sealed but he did graduate highschool so not in prison

  • Yuck. That's pretty distressing :( It sounds like the civil case is still ongoing? Maybe the parents will feel some burden (as guardians should in this case).

    For what it's worth, just to clarify for anyone reading along with the context of this conversation:

    • nobody died in this incident, though multiple people suffered long term debilitating physical and psychological trauma
    • the perpetrator was a minor, and in an assault case where there was no clear intent to cause physical harm - the trend of "rolling coal" being one of intimidation and clout-chasing - the virtue of pursuing criminal convictions that would be expunged before any sentencing of substance could occur is questionable
    • as a minor, any plea agreement or settlement would be sealed. Not even the victims would be allowed to discuss it. So it's very possible it wasn't just an "oopsie" but a settlement where the kid lost his license, was placed under house arrest, was required to do community service, with the parents helping cover medical expenses.... We'd never know. Which is itself a problem, for sure, because it undermines the deterrent factor for others!
    • there is still an opportunity for civil remedies for the victims, and I'm confident their insurance providers will be trying to recoup their costs

    What a shitty situation. Frankly, the law is just really poorly equipped to handle minors who engage in reckless endangerment with a vehicle. We badly need to get some better laws on the books for handling kids who show wonton disregard for others' safety, especially when it's just for clout

    It seems like the prosecutor really did want to go hard on this case too. The article mentions a previous conviction against someone who actually did kill cyclists with their vehicle: life in prison

    In 2017, an army veteran named Victor Tome had veered head-on into a group of people riding bikes in Waller County. The crash killed two riders. Tome, who’d been intoxicated on a mixture of drugs, received a life sentence without parole.

    But to bring it back around to the OP: I think this kinda proves the point I was trying to make...nobody is getting away with murder. And I have a strong suspicion that if anyone had been killed, they'd have tried to prosecute the driver as an adult.

    I need to go watch something happy after reading that article. What a horrible incident. Maybe the victims got justice and we won't ever know, and it certainly seems like the city/county made some significant changes in the aftermath. But it still doesn't feel right. :(

  • Would love to see a citation on this. Not familiar with the specifics and would love to know more but I had trouble finding this specific story

  • 🙌PREACH🙌

    These are the types of arguments we ought to be making memes about. Well reasoned, well spoken, and based in facts that are irrefutable

    Kudos. Thank you for doing "fuck cars" the right way 💪❤️

  • See, THAT is a reasonable, thoughtful argument. Yes, the density of cars in our cities is dangerous.

    But there is not some epidemic of vehicular murders going unpunished.

    Rather, we have normalized living in a high risk environment. And THAT is the crux of the problem. Not law enforcement

  • Perhaps that's because... There usually aren't fatalities inside the home???

    Like, not only is it a giant, loud object that can be seen coming in many cases, but the impact with the house exterior dissipates a huge portion of the energy.

    When people get killed my a car, they don't die from the car hitting them. It's almost always the impact with the ground that causes severe head trauma. Otherwise it's a neck or spinal injury.

    Those types of injuries are just way, way less likely to happen when a car drives into a building.

    I'm getting really sick of people around here not showing even a modicum of logical thought and just screeching "CaRs BaD!!" every other sentence.

    Fuck cars, for a lot of reasons. We don't need to make up new ones that are silly and illogical. We have plenty of really good reasons to say fuck cars that don't involve bullshit claims re: murder charges or a lack thereof

  • And did that kid get off with a "oopsies!"? No? Then how is that related to this thread?

  • They're not comparable.

    If I'm at a firing range, where it is expected that people are carrying guns and ammunition, I can pull the same "oops, my finger slipped" excuse.

    Similarly, if I drive my car around the side of your house and into your back yard to run you over, I can't claim "my foot slipped".

    Seriously, stop with the mental gymnastics. We don't need to reach for more reasons to say "fuck cars." There are plenty within arms reach