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  • You don’t understand that the USA is the global hegemon. It does not get manipulated by other countries. It either manages to dominate or it does not. There is no scenario where other countries have the power they need to actually dominate the US domestically in any sphere.

    The dominant producer of propaganda globally is the USA, both domestically and abroad. Not a single country on the planet has the networks, the apparatus, the number of people, and the continuous propaganda history that the USA has. No “foreign” actor has any chance of competing fully against US propaganda.









  • There’s a material reason (set of) that the left in the West abandoned building a critical narrative - persecution. In America they drove the left out and down. We’re not in a position in America for a left movement to succeed until we can actually build a left movement from the ashes. Said another way, we can’t win until we’re in a position to lose, and we’re not there yet.

    And while I love the PSL for what they are doing, they have a very long way to go to build an actual movement that can lose.

    Also, I know you don’t do this normally, but it really feels like your conflating liberals with The Left in this piece, and they haven’t been Left for 200 years.

    The PSL is articulating a clear class analysis. And the reason it isn’t resonating widely is because the left was suppressed for 5 generations so very few people have parents, grandparents, or great grandparents that they could have learned from. So the PSL message is fighting against the deeply ingrained fear of social isolation, government oppression, and international evil demons.

    This is a deep psychological problem and not one that can be overcome by better messaging. It can only be overcome through human relationship building over time and being ready to help people through crises in real time. When a person is in crisis they are most capable of trading one deep fear for another, but they will only do it if they have the support of others to make that trade. Right now, many people are trading their fear of being a bad person for the fear of the other being a bad person and hurting them. The Left needs to be there to help them see that communism does not make them a bad person but also that acting out of fear that “the other” is bad leads to bad outcomes for them. This is the trade that most people need to make. They fear accepting class analysis because they genuinely believe that it will harm them to believe it: they will become “evil”, their friends and family will abandon them, they will lose their jobs and be reld-listed, the government will oppress them, and bad communist people will take advantage of them.

    Better messaging doesn’t solve this. Building a movement one person at a time does. It is easier to accept class analysis if you see lots of people doing it, a wide variety of people doing it, people who have loving families and decent standards of living, and people who are happy, healthy, secure, confident, and welcoming.

    We have to work at all levels simultaneously, but look at the PSL and ask why centering class analysis for years has not led to the outcomes you are looking for.






  • You need to read the majority of history. In the last 600 years, the majority of history is European empire expanding to dominate 80% of the world’s population. Nearly everything you can point to that you would be aware will simply reinforce that the European project is the source of all the things you think “everyone” does.

    The reality is that China is fighting against the European empire and through that process in the last 75 years they committed some atrocities. But they did so in the context of being a military, not being an empire. The empire was occupying critical parts of China, like the 5 treaty ports and Hong Kong. The empire was training Tibetan terrorists and airifting them into Tibet to cause havoc. The empire was fabricating stories about China.

    For example, take the second most famous picture of Tiananmen Square. You know the one - a bunch of bodies lying on the ground. Go find that picture and zoom in. They’re actually bicycles. But for decades I believed that they were bodies, because that’s how we’re raised in the West.

    You are the one with ideological blinders on. You and I and everyone in the West were raised on red scare propaganda. We were raised on European worship. We were raised on American exceptionalism. Our education downplayed our atrocities and magnified the atrocities of others. Our education told false narratives of why things were done and what the effects were.

    Those of us in the West who support China have removed those ideological blinders through years of research and arguing with each other and others. It is hard to give up the lies of our parents, the lies of the mass media, the lies of our bosses, our friends, our family. It is isolating, it is risky, it can cost us our grades, our jobs, our relationships.

    You, on the other hand, have beliefs that are in lockstep with the propaganda, with the goals of the US State Dept, with the US military, with what you were educated in since you were a baby. Your beliefs are congruent with our cartoons, with our racist jokes, with our war propaganda.

    When you don’t have blinders on, you come into conflict with reality. Instead, you are receding into fantasy. You have been asked to back up your claims and you retreat by waving at history and saying “it’s all there for you too look at” not realizing that we already have and continuously do and that’s why we’re asking you for sources. If you start actually digging for truth, you might start to remove your blinders.

    Instead, you prefer to assume anyone that disagrees with you is ideologically blind, not realizing that in any country it is the people with the mainstream view that are blinded and that the truth takes work to uncover.



  • Consider: in the US and Canada, the European colonizers established residential schools where they housed indigenous children. Those children were beaten for using their native languages. They were beaten for behaving “uncivilized”. Laws were created and enforced in border towns to criminalize being indigenous.

    In China, Tibetans govern the day to day operations of Tibet. Children are educated in their native language. Official business is conducted in their native language. Tibetan holidays are observed. Tibetan traditions are observed.

    So, yes, most of us who knows anything about China expect Tibetans to be respected by the party as they have demonstrated for decades.




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    No. That’s not true at all. Liberalism is a philosophy that centers power on private property whereas conservativism centers power on a sovereign monarch. Under liberalism, private property is the center of power, and that included chattel slavery. Liberalism is the doctrine that allows you to kill people for trespassing on your property. The logic of liberalism is that every square inch of the universe will be owned by someone and if you own nothing then you can die. Under liberalism, it is better that the homeless die than the state truncate the right of land owners in order to redistribute available wealth.

    Liberalism is the philosophy that brought us enclosure. It’s the philosophy that brings us private military contractors. It’s the philosophy that brings us labor exploitation in factories.

    Marxism is inherently ILLIBERAL. Marxism explicitly opposed the existence of private property. Leftism in the modern era is anti-private property and therefore it is illiberal.