exploitedamerican

I didnt know, thanks for the etiquette tip comrade!

I dont think it ever started out as satire. It seems like it is legit just a bunch of corporate turd cutter tongue punchers. It would be one thing if it was funny but its so far beyond anything I've ever seen as satire in my life.

I think this sub started out like the_donlad is now and might morph into satire overtime (hopefully) but go read this thread https://www.reddit.com/r/FuckLuigiMangione/s/fB9OLtu4x9

Also this is the automod response to anyone asking if it is satire

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And then any actually obviously satire posts by people who are pro working class/ anti corporate leaches just turns into heated angry dialogue and then huge amounts or responses are deleted.

It seems they were never pretending. Just a bunch of boot rubber connoisseurs. It seems that UHC leadership might even have a direct hand in the creation of this subreddit.

Obviously not but with all the Luigi thirst trap memes out there the phrase has different connotations. As a married hetero cis gendered dude the guy is unnaturally attractive. Definitely didn’t help the medias attempt to demonize him and is why they ordered a reduction in using pictures of him. Now they seem to have scrubbed stories of him entirely considering its pretty obvious a large demographic of the public supports street justice for the billionaire class

unfortunately that is the nature of the internet in a modern fascist surveillance/police state. But this sub at one point was happily drawing attention to this with one automod response basically saying be aware this subreddit is being monitored by law enforcement and another spouting their love and support for law enforcement. 🥴

It also seems he may have been radicalized during the time he went radio silent with his family. The only thing i see that points to him being conservative are posts about being against pornography which is a pretty exploitative industry in and of itself. However I personally believe sex work should be legalized/ regulated regardless of the nature of sex work. Prohibition in any industry only makes it more exploitative in my opinion

Im not saying he is surely a left or right leaning, most people in the us are somewhere center even those who consider themselves on the left. Im pretty far left. I often say i make bernie sanders look like newt gingrich

Regardless one can make a lot of social progress in a year and especially on a psychedelic self discovery journey its impossible to say for certain what his sociopolitical ideology is on a larger scale. It may be just speculation but i believe that from the time he spent volunteering at his family owned nursing homes he saw how disgusting and exploitative the health insurance industry was milking the elderly of all classes for their accumulated wealth to make a profit. This is very likely what radicalized him to see the corporate executive class as the parasites they are.

Also from the investigation i have done it seems he had a contentious relationship with his family especially his mother who may have lambasted him for idealistic and lofty ideals. And if he is indeed the one who pulled the trigger on december fourth then he did so knowing that he would be forfeiting a massive inheritance and ultimately betraying his upper class conservative capitalist roots. This is a very leftist revolutionary act in and of itself that cant be ignored regardless of what he may have written in his youth and posted on social media. I know in my early 20’s i was probably closer to the center than i am now. I once stupidly thought all lives matter was the right slogan and thought that things could be changed from within the system ie ballot box initiated change but now a decade or so later and I've come to accept reality for what it is.

I don't think we will be able to know much till after this trial is over. And the final verdict will likely impact how much he actually divulges on the speculated intent. I personally believe the “manifesto” ken klippenstien released that LEO gave journalists with an order not to publish isnt the legitimate document but rather the essay on the website pepmangione dot com slash manifesto sounded far more legitimate and something more so in line with what an ivy league educated individual would write but thats just my gut feeling.

Well that goes without saying. But one would have thought that r/fuckluigimangione would have been about how people of all genders and orientations were cumming together wanting to actually fuck luigi mangione! But nope user flares include UHC representative and member of law enforcement

Lmao, “tHe VaLuE oF GoLd Is FaKe” meanwhile supports fiat currency which is literally just paper we are being convinced is valuable because a bunch of rich assholes who need us to be subservient to them have told us these worthless pieces of paper are valuable.

You’re the one who’s thinking is logically flawed. If the golbal reserve currency of the world is no longer backed by gold then what incentive do the economies of any other countries have to back their currencies with gold which would just allow citizens and foreign nations to pilfer their supply with no resistance from the aristocracy. This allows them to eat their cake and have it to. Also its a logical fallacy to assume these billionaires have to get together and secretly collude. They have like interests and have no problem publicly saying the quiet part out loud at this point and just working together to ensure these interests are maintained. You’re a fool if you think anything more is needed than the converging mutual interests of some of the most extremely wealthy people ever to exist. youre naive.

Bitcoin is not backed by nothing and that idea just shows you have no clue what you're talking about. It is literally backed by not just all the gold in all the gpu’s used to mine it by calculating the solutions to the cryptography based problems that validate the blockchain. But by all the other rare earth minerals used in these gpu chips as well as the massive amounts of energy used to sustain these processes. Bitcoin is a technologically sophisticated answer to modern currency. If you cant understand why its better than paper money and the current digital model used by banks across the world then you are hopeless. This is a quasi modern luddite perspective (contrary to popular belief the Luddites didn’t actually oppose technology they just opposed industrialization that would out them out of work) cryptocurrency exists for more than one reason snd really the whole idea that bitcoin is e is a farce now since LEOs have caught up with the technology. Monero is still difficult to trace due tonits ring signature feature but there are a plethora of positive features to cryptocurrencies. Its a distributed ledger that minimizes fraud among other benefits/features

something I have found with my years on reddit is that people who argue and debate by quoting everything they are responding too are douche nozzles who do this as so they can make their arguments seem stronger than they are. Its just a method of intentional aggrandizing. Also you choose to respond only to the parts of my responses that are easiest to attack while ignoring the solid concepts behind my overall argument.

When you break my argument down to mathematical analysis the proof is in the pudding. The increase in US national debt since 1971- $400 billion to 36.2 trillion or 9050% vs the increase in the price of gold since 1971- $35 to $2900 as I currently type this or 8300% thats within a ≈7% margin of error. it doesn't matter what you say especially since you're just choosing to believe liars who have enriched themselves by defrauding the working class

Immediately going back to the gold standard would not fix 54 years of disastrous economic policy that has devalued money to this point. We would need to make it illegal to hoard wealth, seize the assets of the 1% in America and redistribute at least half their wealth leaving them with on average $5.5 million each and giving 337 million Americans $69,500 each (which would be more once you figure in children and dependents) that is what the 43.5 trillion the 1% are hoarding could do and that $5.5 million on average left for each of these 3.4 million wealthiest people is more than generous.

The reason no country currently backs their currency to gold is primarily because central banks control all the currencies in circulation and these are ultra greedy institutions that want to eat their cake and have it to. Its not that difficult to understand. Switzerland was the last country to abandon the gold standard in 1999. They also have one of the largest gold reserves on the planet and are one of the wealthiest countries in the world per capita. Just because no currency is directly tied to gold in any official capacity does not mean the value of all currencies is not still intrinsically tied to gold. You can still trade currency for gold obviously but when the gold standard was in practice banks and official financial institutions by law had to produce the equivalent amount of gold upon demand whenever a citizen (or foreign entity) presented the currency and demanded to convert it to gold. Ending the gold standard was an intelligent calculated strategy for the us economy when it did so because after doing so and refusing to pay out the debt held in us reserve notes by other countries they could as i said eat their cake and have it to. Now They could print the rubber money out of thin air and would no longer have to suffer any loss of their gold reserve when other nation states demanded the US pay the debt they owed in gold because they no longer had to oblige to those demands. The value of gold didn’t just go up because we ended the gold standard it went up because when we ended the gold standard we began printing paper currency irresponsibly and acquiring foreign debt faster than ever and did so with reckless abandon for the last 54 years and now divided up evenly between every American we owe just over $105,000

I think you've really misinterpreted my words into thinking that I have said “we need to immediately go back to the gold standard” that is not feasible. Slowly transitioning back to the gold standard would make some bit of difference but would take a monumental effort that would be far more difficult than what FDR did when he temporarily suspended the gold standard some 90 or so years ago buying up the majority of the gold supply in the us to store at the newly built fort knox and then revalued gold to almost double its price overnight which intentionally caused inflation. This made it so that more money could be printed while minimizing the inflationary impact that would be caused by just irresponsibly printing money out of thin air to fix the mess made by wall street banks. Fdr foresaw what has happened in the last 53 years happening much sooner due to the great depression as citizens were already starting to hoard gold after the banks crashed and were less trusting of the us dollar but this didnt cause any rapid inflation because the wealthy were hoarding the bank notes since they were just as good as gold at the time. It did wreak economic havoc in other ways such as extreme unemployment levels and homelessness. Weve seen poctures of the central park shanty town houses and breadlines of the time. but fast forward to the inflation we are seeing now and the us dollar either needs to be deflated intentionally, or we need to start from scratch entirely adopt a new national currency potentially by developing a new blockchain based stable coin or just adopting bitcoin. (Before you go and knock bitcoin you need to understand banks have digitized currency already and that blockchain technology is a far superior model when compared to the digital representation of currency that almost all banks have used for the last 3 or so decades, if goldman sachs and all the other wall street banks were correct in their public sentiments that bitcoin/crypto currencies are illegitimate Ponzi schemes then they would not also be investing billions behind the scene to develop their own blockchain technology to replace their current digital ledger systems) What we need is a radical solution and just going back to the gold standard isn’t it. We are well beyond that. One thing i can say would help is to outlaw the domestic influence of foreign international central banking institutions which have been opposed by several presidents most notably Abraham Lincoln and John F Kennedy. Lincoln himself said “I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me and the bankers in the rear. Of the two, the one at my rear is my greatest foe.“

The numbers i had previously quoted on our national debt increase were only estimates. I just checked and in 1971 our total national debt was $400 billion and today it is $36.22 trillion so that is in increase of 9000% compare that to the 8400% increase in the value of gold since we ended the gold standard and it speaks for itself. Consumer price index inflation models are used because they intentionally downplay the scope of the issue. As i said already cpi does not account for the devaluation of a currency due to the increase in circulating currency supply. Gold has already gone up another $85-90 since i last checked to $2944 an ounce. Rents are definitely going to rise as a result. Near me in providence Rhode Island 2 bedroom apartments in the neighborhood i grew up some 15 blocks from brown university are now unaffordable at $2700-3000 a month. Even 14 miles outside the cityin some of the more poverty striken areas you are looking st $2300-2500 a month. For a 1 bedroom which were about $700-900 just 6 years ago you are looking st $1500-1600 today. I just had to move out of an apartment last year that we were renting for $825 because the slumlord was selling the property and the new owner wanted $1500 without doing any improvements on the property or individual unit. Back in 2011 i rented a 2 bedroom 2 floor townhouse in providence about 3 miles up the street from brown for $900 and that same apartment today is $2800 but state minimum wage is barely 50% higher

But yes just going back to the gold standard would not be a feasible solution to the extreme inflation and austerity the American working class have been saddled with. Something radical needs to be done since this reality has been ignored and outright obfuscated for the last 3.5/4 decades which is about when it became a real problem. But we have gone from snowball to avalanche in my 35 year lifetime and unfortunately i only see it gutting worse. Gold will likely be $4200 or potentially higher by the time trump leaves office. Last time he took over the oval office after obama gold spot price was around $1200/oz and it peaked at $2050 when trump left it was $1950 so that’s approximately 66% increase which is just a little less than the increase seen under the bush administration.

I dont have the answer for what to do unfortunately. I just see the signs. Maybe my ideas for repairing this could mitigate some of the mayhem that has resulted but i can say for sure the direction we are headed with MAGA and even the direction we would have been heading with Blue Maga would both be the wrong directions. The former more so than the latter. What we need is a proletarian revolution and an end to class dictatorship. We have a kakistocracy , which is a government led by the least educated and the least capable among us. And we need the opposite of that. We need a meritocracy where one’s achievements and level of success are not measured by how ruthlessly they exploit those beneath them and how much wealth they can amass and hoard. But unfortunately those in control will die before they relinquish their death grip of power to maintain the exact opposite system of what we need as a society.

I do not intend to be insulting or adversarial but sometimes we need to just realize that what is needed is to think outside the box and reject those who continue to feed us the everything is fine narrative while we are sitting inside a building thst is clearly burning while the temperature increases and the sweat beads off our forehead. There have been more than enough red flags to suggest that wall street, the IMF world bank and the propaganda outlets masquerading as journalistically integrous institutions making excuses for the former are anything but. Sometimes the most basic questions that others consider childish and dumb can provide a perspective that is both refreshing and borderline ontologically shocking.

No there is no conspiracy against the gold standard and if that is what you think i am saying then your assessment of your own intellect is extremely overinflated.

There was however a concerted and successful effort to intentionally devalue the us dollar to eradicate the progress made by the civil and labor rights movement from the 40’s to 60’s as well as the new deal FDR policies all of which allowed the working class in America to briefly experience unprecedented prosperity. In the 50’s 60’s and early 70’s the bottom 90% had an 80% share of the wealth and that wealth distribution has since flipped almost upside down with the top 1% owning 63% of the wealth or 43.5 trillion that we can directly account for. Shift that group to the top 10% and its 74% of the wealth leaving 90% of americans fighting for 26% the bottom 50% have a less than 2% share. We are being paid table scraps even those making $250k a year are getting peanuts. Meanwhile people like you who are undermining / attempting to discredit what i am telling everyone else are actively working against the interests of the working class. You are a class traitor wether by explicit effort or your own ignorance the result of your resistance to accept what i am telling you is the same either way. Edit: It seems that I have misquoted the wealth share. The 63% owned by the 1% is actually the percentage of new wealth they have taken hold of since 2021. right now what I can find is that the top 10% own a collective 71% of the wealth with almost half of that, 30% (43.5 trillion) to be exact owned by the top 1% and the bottom 170 million people have a 2.5% share of the wealth.

Minimum wage Americans are paid less than what it cost to purchase and maintain slaves for the 30 years average lifespan of typical enslaved humans before slavery finally ended sometime after the emancipation proclamation.

But go ahead keep believing that if you work hard enough and show initiative and make it to a salary equaling $50 or $100 an hour that you have made it buddy. You are clueless.

You are correct. In laymens terms the constitutional court of germany sided with the two citizens challenging the use of electronic/digital voting machines with the thought that it is inpossible to differentiate between legitimate and fraudulent results unless a technology is presented where the votes cast can be verified as legitimate instead of being obfuscated by ghe technology of the devices themselves and requiring technical experts to translate the outcome and mechanisms of the technology.

Here is the basic text summarizing their decision.

“all essential steps of an election are subject to the possibility of public scrutiny unless other constitutional interests justify an exception . . . The use of voting machines which electronically record the voters’ votes and electronically ascertain the election result only meets the constitutional requirements if the essential steps of the voting and of the ascertainment of the result can be examined reliably and without any specialist knowledge of the subject . . . The very wide-reaching effect of possible errors of the voting machines or of deliberate electoral fraud make special precautions necessary in order to safeguard the principle of the public nature of elections.”

they didn't say that electronic votes are all fraudulent, obviously (not that this is what anyone is saying here) but rather that the technology itself is subject to manipulation by those who control the technology and know how to manipulate it or even that errors could change the results and ultimately this undermines constituent’s rights to fair elections in the age of technocratic oligarchy and multinational corporate corruption/ interference.

That being said there are obviously other ways to manipulate elections outside of the ballot counting itself such as gerrymandering, mis/disinformation and even political violence to name several but at least the german election system seems to be protected from outright manipulation of votes via obfuscated technological / programed software mechanisms

People thinking that cutting out holocaust remembrance shows antisemitism but are not seeing the bigger picture here. Especially with the ADL defending musk’s blatant fascist salute this is in line with the agenda of zionism. (Which is in and of itself antisemitic towards Palestinians/ arabs in the levant who are all semitic peoples) Considering that zionists campaign to use the holocaust as a carte blanche for them to commit ethnic cleansing and genocide against arabs has failed and instead become their most contested and valid criticism of zionism in that zionists are perpetuating the same atrocities against another ethnic/cultural/religious group it will benefit the zionists greatly to remove holocaust remembrance from the conversation so that future generations will lack the education and understanding of the past and lack the ability to analyze and criticize the actions of the zionist regime. Whos greatest ally has ow effectively transitioned from skin deep fascist apologia with plausibly deniable motives to a straight up blatant fascist / corporatist regime actively covering up and suppressing the criminality of their zionist enabling motives

Regardless i dont see how that makes my comment any less valid. Those with massive wealth use their money to support these campaigns and present an image of strong support within the population although this isnt truly the case however they dont care because they want to manipulate the narrative to manufacture consent. This wont work in Germany with their election laws. Also Germany has much better education standards than the usa so a good percentage of the population will outright reject blatant fascism.

Unless germany has transitioned to electronic voting since their last election I wouldn't worry. Last i heard the german court struck down attempts to transition away from paper ballots using the idea that electronic voting is unconstitutional due to the fact that it is impossible to distinguish legitimate results from fraudulent ones. It would be great if we could adopt that type of election transparency in the usa.

I have expressed my argument concisely you just keep moving the goal posts and clinging to the idea that institutions that have defrauded the American people as well as the world are trustworthy which is laughable. Also if you look hard enough you can find that these institutions are lying and occasionally say the quiet part out loud. This is a wall street owned legacy media outlet saying that for a family of four to have a comfortable life requires an income that equals about 60 to 95 ounces of gold annually depending upon which state that family lives in. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/04/20/the-income-a-family-of-4-needs-to-live-comfortably-in-every-state.html

But go ahead and keep believing the liars who have bought our political institutions and representatives. Who tell us that minimum wage would be around $24/hr if it had kept up with inflation since 1970. that is so laughable $24 an hour even before taxes is garbage and not even worth getting out of bed for. I used to be able to barely afford rent back in 2011 for a 2 bedroom in an ivy league college town it was $900/month at the time. The SAME apartment today is $2450/month so that $24/hour which is $960 before tax deductions is fucking garbage. The poverty line hasn't been adequately adjusted in decades and federal minimum wage is 16 years without adjustment and it’ll be 20 years after this disaster of an administration sinks the country further into fascism. But i bet you also disagree that america is fascist regardless which party is in control even though as benitto moussolini said fascism would be more appropriately called corporatism since it is the consolidation of corporate power and the state.

We live in a society where the majority of people are totally blind and dumb to reality. The news actively undermines the best interest of the people and works to minimize any unrest/ discontent in the population with distractions and out right lies. They actively use psychological warfare against us and people like yourself just keep on parroting delusional nonsensical takes that everything is fine and people who are sounding the alarms are just over reacting. There is no left party in the usa there is a far right and a center right pretending to be the left. We live in a class dictatorship and any idea that the news outlets and financial institutions shaping the social discourse have any credibility is a farce.

One day isn't enough, we need to make this a month long shutdown. These military and prison industry profiteers will use militarized violence to stop such a monumental effort and this will dissolve the facade of our liberal democracy for the class dictatorship it truly is which is the wake up cup of espresso this fucking country needs asap.

You can just say you've lost the argument and or given up instead of trying to exude superiority in your failed points by attempting to say too many words/ a verbose detailed argument somehow lessens the strength of my arguments. Its like saying einstein’s mathematical formulas were somehow wrong because there were too many variables and functions / too complicated couldn't make sense of it 🤣

just say you give up and consider your arguments are just nonsense you’ve been conditioned to believe by people who would literally still own slaves if it were still legal (actually they still do in more ways than one) but if you believe what wall street economists tell the general public then you probably also believe that corporate news outlets are credible journalistic sources and the US is a bastion of true democracy which we spread across the globe using the friendly persuasion of a highly armed industrialized military apparatus.

The entire american working class needs collective organizing and bargaining but it seems that will likely be outlawed in the next 4 years as the us slips further into a fascist kakistocracy.

You mean the Nobel Prize committee? The same people who gave Obama a war mongering neo liberal fascist the peace prize for all those peaceful drone bombings he ordered? Yeah they are really fucking credible, about as credibke as the ADL when they said elon musk didnt blatantly do a fascist salute in front of all the white nationalists sycophants at the Trump inauguration.

Economics isnt a real science, i just aced the first few quizes of economics on khan academy to see how much science is involved and my suspicions are correct. Econ is just bullshit that aims to solidify the ideas that free markets are good and have done such a great job of adequately distributing resources in a society and socialism is the devil so lets all just bend over and let billionaire central banking military and prison industry profiteers tell us what color the fucking sky is and ignore our basic senses.

Here is the basic reality, money isn't real, its paper we all have been indoctrinated to believe in its value because it benefits the wealthy who wxert their capital to exploit large swaths of labor so they can live in opulent luxury at our expense. they use violence to enforce this system at our detriment, gold is real, silver is real, but silver is highly undervalued right now and has been for the last 25 years at least and gold is the only commodity that has proportionally increased in value when compared to the reckless over printing of currency and accumulation of national debt on the us dollar. Your arguments amount to “nah ah, the super credible people who tell us what to think don't agree with you even though their actions support what you’re saying we should just trust our merciful aristocratic overlords and trust their plan for our dwindling future prospects and ignore the borderline austerity conditions in the usa today becasue so long as cheap consumer goods fill box stores and billionaires are buying more yachts then we can claim the stock market and subsequently the entire exonomy are booming never-mind the un affordability of rent and housing, decades of wage stagnation and 60% of workers living paycheck to paycheck with no emergency savings. Also the large stores of gold these governments and financial institutions have stockpiled solidifies my point, if the value of money was based upon the money itself and the trustworthiness of the government printing that money then they wouldn’t need to stockpile gold they would just print more money but its a fact that the more money you print the less value each bank note holds and the more the price of gold increases in perpetuity as the circulating currency supply increases.

Also less than 11 tons of gold you just mentioned out of the estimated 212,000 tons currently above ground is barely 5% of the supply, so this is not what is pushing the price of gold to balloon 8200% in the last 53 years. But keep on trusting central banking institutions who have defrauded entire economies multiple times with no consequences what so ever. Its like thinking the pack of hungry wolves outside your door are begging to be domesticated or thst you have a real interpersonal connection with the stripper you just paid $400 to grind over your jeans.

I think ifs most likely he is just a piece of shit

I didnt steal MaGGA i mean odds are someone has said it before but go ahead and use that shit till it or some billionaires be dead. hopefully the latter comes first.

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The Fu¢k luigi mangione reddit sub is not satire, it is gross corpo bootlicking on full display

The Fu¢k luigi mangione reddit sub is not satire, it is gross corpo bootlicking on full display

The Fu¢k luigi mangione reddit sub is not satire, it is gross corpo bootlicking on full display

The Fu¢k luigi mangione reddit sub is not satire, it is gross corpo bootlicking on full display

The Fu¢k luigi mangione reddit sub is not satire, it is gross corpo bootlicking on full display

The Fu¢k luigi mangione reddit sub is not satire, it is gross corpo bootlicking on full display

The Fu¢k luigi mangione reddit sub is not satire, it is gross corpo bootlicking on full display

The price of gold (the true measure of inflation) at all time high

The price of gold (the true measure of inflation) at all time high

The price of gold (the true measure of inflation) at all time high

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Germany: 90% of voters fear manipulation by foreign actors ahead of election on February 23 - Russia, U.S., China perceived top threats

Germany: 90% of voters fear manipulation by foreign actors ahead of election on February 23 - Russia, U.S., China perceived top threats

The price of gold (the true measure of inflation) at all time high

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The price of gold (the true measure of inflation) at all time high

Elon Musk demands firing of ‘disgusting and cruel’ WSJ reporter who uncovered DOGE employee’s racist tweets

The price of gold (the true measure of inflation) at all time high

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