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  • As it has been pointed out elsewhere, Native Americans have been in the America longer than most Europeans have been in Europe.

  • Thank you very much for sharing this

  • If the state is the people then the cost is borne somehow by the people. China's method is to to deflate the cost of living by reducing the cost of production and services at every possible aspect (think for example getting to hospital and getting reviewed by a specialist - like the whole journey - and think about every single cost involved in that journey: the transportation, the power/energy poduction, all the professionals (the cost of their education and their living expenses), infrastructure, mineral and material supply chains, pharmaceutics etc)

  • So this is meant to be an exemplar of Whiteness as a response to their Great Replacement Theory.

  • It is interesting that fascism never ever really took off in Islam as opposed to Christianity/Judaism - in fact the usual US empire of supporting fascists (eg Americas / Europe etc) didn't really work with Islam so they supported salafist/takfiri off-shoots instead.

  • If you ever get the chance, I would look up Fabian "socialism" as a microcosm to the answer to your question; its history and anti-marxism, and how those paradigms then fit into the below:

    https://redsails.org/concessions/

  • "Poverty ... is a most necessary and indispensable ingredient in society, without which nations and communities could not exist in a state of civilisation. It is the lot of man – it is the source of wealth, since without poverty there would be no labour, and without labour there could be no riches, no refinement, no comfort, and no benefit to those who may be possessed of wealth" - Patrick Colquhoun (absolute scum), commenting on pauperism/workhouses

    I'm imagining they had some Malthusian perspective like the above if not outright mass murder.

  • No policies, no plans, no talk about healthcare or housing, just memes.

    Then one has an understanding the type of people they are targeting.

  • For anyone who has read down this far, book recommendation: Thinking in Systems by Meadows (recommended initially by OP :) )

  • ^Very much this.

    Like any accusation of atrocity propaganda against anti-imperialist states, villifying of immigrants, or accusations of lack of democracy, we now have an easy new Western Magnum Opus to point to; it won't convince anyone still benefiting from present material conditions but it may help any nasecent leftist organisations/proto-organisations in the west to help sharpen their political theory of attack ie who not to waste their time "persuading".

  • Will likely just be replaced by a smarter/more ruthless fascist/liberal. This is not a lesser evil argument, just reflecting the direction of change.

  • Religion reflects material conditions. Hence why the Catholicism of US/France/Germany differs from that of say Cuba or Liberation Theology of South America (or you could make comparisons between feudal/slavery vs capitalism such as the differences in Christianity on either side of the US civil war but the similarities of persistant anti-black racism reflecting capitalist values in developing the bourgoisie proleteriat as a means of stablity to maintain growth).

    The apparent purging in the very early stage of socialism in USSR and PRC was partly due to religious holdouts that reflected feudal/bourgoisie values and therefore effectively sided with foreign powers against the new proleteriat state.

    Vanguard parties tend to be secular in order to especially cut through these reactionary tendancies. Purging religion completely prematurely will bring up its own contradictions that may slow the progression of socialism. I suspect organised institutional religion will wither away similar to the state over longer periods of time.

    If one wanted to consider a more decisive take on where religion should be guided towards currently is the encouragement of breaking of religious "homegenity" so that you have multiple localised folk versions of any given religion otherwise you will just get religion developing further fascist ethnonationalism (take your pick of examples such as Christianity/Hinduism/Judaism as opposed to say Taoism in China - consider how the latter could even be disputed whether it is an actual single religion in the 21st century given the wide range of folk localisation ie people may say its a "philosophy" rather than relgion. The same would likely have happened to Hinduism if India became socialist instead of capitalist following nominal indepenence from Britain).

    Furthermore, atheism, especially in the west did not reverse imperialism - it doubled down on the exploitative relationship with the Global South ie it was defined by its material conditions. (Went from let's bomb those brown folks because they are the wrong relgion to let's bomb those brown folks because they are religious). Compare that to the atheism of socialist countries and their strong anti-imperialist stances, again defined by their local material conditions (one could even argue the atheism of socialist states reflects lack of religion rather than a new religion in itself like in the West).

    Dialectical materialism means the material always comes before the idea.

    https://redsails.org/on-the-question-of-religion/

  • Open your eyes then.

    (is there somewhere Christians have not done that?)

  • This^.

  • Pretty much agree.

    Don't get me wrong, Shelley's Frankenstein is clearly a more sophisticated piece of art than the movie and much to be learned from it, and arguably influenced a lot of western fiction thereafter but we do we have to be cognizant of the classes it is batting for.

  • It is the celebration of the sacrifices made that highlights what it means to be an Übermensch. The immigrant sublimates his exploitation by becoming the exploiter.

    It is made even more clear in the conversations of Michael with Roth about Cuba - Michael commentary on the cuban revolutionaries in some ways highlights the problem with western literary critique: one could say he has sympathy with them just because he pointed it out but is pointing out really justify such an interpretation? Do we ignore his class? Much of godfather has those "leimotifs"; that simply showing bad things happens is considered criticism while it painstakingly takes the time in the story so that we empathise with its protagonist, for example.

    Still love the movie though because, well, im not that sophisticated and learned (but primarily, let's be honest, material conditions).