cypherpunks

given that Swiss law means complying with MLAT requests from many countries including the US, why do you think Proton chooses to retain data linking user accounts with payment identities?

if you stick a privacy fence up around your house, does it make you anonymous? of course not, because privacy does not mean anonymous. you should not blame someone else because you are confused on the difference between privacy and anonymity.

i am not confused at all about "the difference between privacy and anonymity"; the former is a broader concept which includes the latter. Privacy regarding one's identity (or avoiding revealing the link between related identities, which is what is usually meant by "anonymity") is one of many types of privacy.

Proton mail advertises that their service is designed for "privacy", not "privacy except not with regards to your legal identity which we decided to needlessly retain information about and which you should obviously expect us to give to the authorities upon request".

where did you get the notion that "privacy" excludes "anonymity"? this is not a rhetorical question, i am interested to know because I see these "difference between privacy and anonymity" comments frequently lately and i wonder where this meme originated.

now that i've linked you to the paywall bypass and pointed out that it is a credible journalist and outlet reporting that Proton confirmed that this happened, why not update your post title to match the article's accurate headline?

your instance has a list of communities federated to it here: https://piefed.zip/communities

the most active community for announcing new communities is !newcommunities@lemmy.world (which includes communities on many different instances, not only .world)

Why do you think Proton stores the association between accounts and payment identity?

Many privacy-oriented companies actually accept credit card payments and simply don't store that information.

answer:

proton is snake oil

article in case you can’t read it: https://lemmy.ml/post/44086795

that link only has two paragraphs of the article; there are 8 more in the full article here on archive.org

OP, why did you put "news media claims" at the beginning of this post title? are you doubting the veracity of it? the journalist and outlet reporting this are both well known and reputable, and they have quotes from Proton's head of communications confirming it.

Btw, you can read the whole article here on archive.org.

Proton chooses to retain data associating accounts with personal information from credit card payments, and they choose to advertise Swiss legal jurisdiction as a privacy feature.

I think it's actually maybe a bridge too far even for them - it reminds me of this scene in Bowling for Columbine where the brother of Oklahoma City bombing accomplice Terry Nichols reluctantly concedes that there should be some limits to the right to bear arms.

that isn't how prediction markets work; the house gets their fees regardless.

Reminds me of this scene in Bowling for Columbine where the brother of Oklahoma City bombing accomplice Terry Nichols reluctantly concedes that there should be some limits to the right to bear arms.

in b4 someone at NBC asks:

(reference)

when i browse my lemmy profile via your mastodon instance i see that my first post of this same wikipedia article (to !wikipedia@lemmy.ml) does render correctly there - it is only this cross-post i made to !wikipedia@lemmy.world which has the wrong preview. (if you figure out why, i'd be curious to know!)

why is this the OG preview

no idea, that is odd. from searching i see that that preview comes from this post from 2023 (who's permalink is on a domain which no longer runs lemmy; the instance which was feddit.de is now feddit.org).

if you look at my post made today here on lemmy.ml it has the correct thumbnail from wikipedia.

This post caused me to look up what changed: sadly they aren't exiting the consumer space but rather are just ceasing to include lane-keeping in their basic package to instead require new customers who want it to pay a monthly subscription fee for what they amusingly call "Full Self Driving (Supervised)".

is it time for a Windows edition of the classic Jamiroquai sound meme?

howard's awkward canard

If you are not able to rationally argue why we shouldn’t be bigoted, I don’t know what to tell you.

it's not that people can't, but spaces which have unlimited tolerance for sealions suggesting that it's necessary to argue about that are likely to have less interesting discussions than spaces which do not 🙄