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i am more than willing to engage on any positive claim you want to make (i probably agree with a lot of them). what i’m not willing to do is tolerate personal attacks and dogpiling.

  • I'm not anti vegan

  • none of this changes the fact that more meat is produced every year.

    just eating beans doesn't help animals. you need to go to where the animals are and help them

  • make any excuse you want: being vegan hasn't stopped any animal from being killed

  • aesthetic needs

  • your accusations of shilling and bad faith are, themselves, bad faith.

    do you need help finding the block button?

  • nope. people need more than survival.

  • so don't do that

  • What are you even talking about?

    Maslow

  • Other than survival needs, nothing warrants killing and eating sentient beings

    most people don't do that, anyway. but you're asserting this without evidence, so it can be dismissed without evidence as well

  • almost no calves become veal anyway

  • most dairy calves are brought to full weight before slaughter

  • survival needs are the very bottom of the hierarchy

  • cutting out animal products helps animals

    no, it doesn't.

  • it is wrong to eat them

    this is stated without any supporting evidence, and can be dismissed without any evidence.

  • Since when reducing 90% of their meat intake is being a hypocrite? It’s objectively reducing the suffering of animals.

    no, it's not. even being vegan doesn't reduce the suffering of animals.

  • all terms are made up. this one in particular was made up by vegans to identify non-believers.

  • that’s not the case for a huge majority of people

    you don't know what others need