I don't hate X11, but I do think it's holding us back, so I get the sentiment that many people have. It's also important to note that it's human nature to dig our heels in and resist change, so you have to keep your own biases in check.
Wayland is technically more modern and secure, which is important. That said, X11 is still needed and I don't think we should discount it yet.
I'm curious what "non-normal" things you're referring to. I've found that Wayland and xwayland do everything I need them to and I have a few things I'd consider abnormal.
Oh. To be fair, the PulseAudio days started off REALLY shit and JACK/ALSA had the limitations of "locking" an audio device to a specific process/application, so it used to be much rougher.
Ever since pipewire came along, it's been really solid.
Newer kernel and drivers for graphics cards. Fedora runs a more close to bleeding edge kernel, mesa, etc. whereas Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu LTS (Long Term Servicing) builds, so they don't "rock the boat" as much with things like newer kernels as frequently.
Mint's Cinnamon Desktop Environment also only supports the older X11 display server (Wayland is experimental right now) whereas GNOME and KDE desktops on Fedora default to Wayland. This translates to more modern and efficient window rendering.
Basically:
Mint: "Just works. Don't rock the boat. This will be stable into the heat death of the universe"
Fedora: "Maximum speed and features at reasonable stability"
This is common on Linux even with scroll wheels and trackpads. "Natural" or "Inverted" scrolling is weirdly the default on KDE, GNOME, etc. I turn that shit off.
I think of it as you're "dragging" the page in the direction you're scrolling as if you were putting your finger on it and moving it that way. I don't like the inversion of that.
This is the autism community. Don't be surprised if this is just someone genuinely sharing their experience, but sounding "like a robot" talking about it.
I've literally talked like OP before and sounded like an ad read. Lol.
I tried CachyOS. Took three tries for the installer to install without bombing on an error. Third time I got it after changing file system type to ext4 and not using full disk encryption.
Then I updated everything post-install. Black screen. No boot. AMD CPU and GPU.
Installed Fedora KDE. Works perfectly. Haven't looked back in three months since leaving Mint.
I, too, don't understand it. I'd rather install straight Arch. The archinstall works fine.
I don't hate X11, but I do think it's holding us back, so I get the sentiment that many people have. It's also important to note that it's human nature to dig our heels in and resist change, so you have to keep your own biases in check.
Wayland is technically more modern and secure, which is important. That said, X11 is still needed and I don't think we should discount it yet.
I'm curious what "non-normal" things you're referring to. I've found that Wayland and xwayland do everything I need them to and I have a few things I'd consider abnormal.