Yeah probably. Still not good for new people or interns etc. People believe what it tells them.
I can see it helping in some ways, but for the example you gave id rather talk to an actual human. Its very strange to me to feed my thoughts into a datcenter so it can predict what I want to hear.
Obviously S&G had nothing of the sort, it didnt exist at the time.
Im not going to ask for a list of artists and look up every mixing engineer to see if they are against autotune or not. I guarantee there's music you listen to that has it being used (unless obviously, its instrumental music etc) because everyone uses it to sound pro. Just like they will use ai to "sound pro".
Yeah people arent really understanding how prolific autotune/pitch correction is. They think their niche bands arent using it. Well sorry to say, they are. You just have no idea. I work with producers and engineers and have done it myself, and ive seen how its used.
Was just showing how the same comparison will be used with ai tools in a few years, and people will be having this exact same argument over the fact that "hey, its fine that band actually used ai for all their drums because their drummer is bad!" There truly is nothing new under the sun :)
Companies are so damn lazy now. They could actually DO something to help the consumer but nope, boiling oceans and harvesting data illegally is innovation now.
Even pros use it, read literally any article on mixing/recording.
Because its so commonplace and its expected to be perfect. Im drawing the parallel between that technology and ai, because it WILL be identical.
Imagine scenario. Song comes out. Its a good song. You have no idea at all that everything was ai generated because it sounds exactly like a normal song. Maybe all the instrumentation was ai generated and the voice is real, to throw you off. Still my point stands. You will be consuming ai generated "music" and you wont have a clue, just like you apparently dont know that the large majority of singers (pro and non pro) are using autotune/pitch correction.
Easy example off top of my head. David Draiman was using real time autotune on the live performance of sound of silence. Note i dont care for this group or their cover, but its an easy one.
You are the embodiment of a person in 20 years saying no band they listen to uses ai. But you have no idea, and neither would future person. Unless you've been there for every recording and mixing session for these bands ?
No one is seeming to get my point. Autotune/melodyne/pitch correction (semantics) is SO transparent now, you really dont know unless you engineered the track. Ai usage is/will be the same, untraceable.
In many ways they are similar. Im not referring to auto tune being used in a creative sense. But auto tune (antares) was used to fix vocals often, now its melodyne etc.
I think a lot of people say that because they already know its an ai sound generation (really, its not music). But if they didnt know it and a friend showed a song to them, I doubt most people would notice. Audio is the easiest thing to emulate, takes very little power.
Most proponents argue that the grid needs to be updated anyways, and more efficient power generation is being developed, and also the fact that 1 gaming pc uses many many times the energy of a prompt.
Everything you just said could have been used to scare people about electricity. Or the internet.
I dont agree they'll get sick of it, sadly. WE hate it because we know better, but normal everyday people absolutely love it and are asking grok what to eat for their next meal and what shoes to buy. Its in the zeitgeist and people want it constantly.
That may be, im pretty forgiving of most singers really because it is hard. I see why they use the tools. But there is a MASSIVE amount of editing in your average song today.
Its used in punk bands as well. i can assure you. Even if its home-recorded.
Wasn't gatekeeping at all. Merely stating that that is the only way you truly know the music is completely authentic (if you care about that, most dont).
So youre absolutely sure the artists you listen to arent using any form of pitch correction?
Are they all recording directly to 24 track 2" tape and then cut to vinyl directly as well? Because thats the only way you can be certain (thats negating an outboard vocal tuner, which could be in the signal chain).
The point here is, you have no idea. Just like many will have no idea they are listening to machine generated music and it wont be given a second thought. Its just kind of gross to me.
Right, thats what im saying. Its already edited to death now, so the change to ai music won't even be large, because everything is already quantized and pitch matched.
Its just a depressing dystopian future that the majority of humans will be listening to and enjoying music made by billionaires with data centers.
Yeah probably. Still not good for new people or interns etc. People believe what it tells them.
I can see it helping in some ways, but for the example you gave id rather talk to an actual human. Its very strange to me to feed my thoughts into a datcenter so it can predict what I want to hear.