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  • Nina going off today

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  • Lmao, the intent of black bloc is absolutely not an acknowledgement of peaceful protest, it’s an acknowledgement that violence is necessary against oppressive capitalist systems and state violence.

    Yeah you're stuck in the 80s. That type of black blocs wasn't a tactic, it was Autonomous Marxists jacking off. They were starting shit on May Day for the purpose of starting shit. It had the net result of lowering attendance to union marches because, circling back to my very first comment: Not that many people fancy dodging burning trash cans. Name comes from the federal prosecutor describing them as "Schwarzer Block", the translation and weird lack of k came later.

    As a modern tactic the black bloc is, as I said, a lightning rod. Marching alongside, holding still, if police act up they're shielding other protestors by engaging. Yes, it acknowledges that violence is necessary to defend a protest. Defence being the key word, here.

    You're ignoring like 30 years of development in protest tactics. What you're trying to do, we've been there. Doesn't work.

    There's a prayer vigil planned for today, isn't there, what are you going to do? Come there in black, mingle with the grandmas, and start throwing molotov cocktails? You know who does that kind of thing? Agent provocateurs. That's why I've been calling you a fed.

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  • Yup, and with any luck Trump will continue with the lack of subtlety.

    You're being accelerationalist. Also that wasn't Trump that was a local jackboot jacking off.

    Either he’s a dictator or he can be obstructed by judicial paperwork. You can’t have a dictator that politely complies with the judiciary, that’s what makes them a dictator.

    Who the fuck cares if the dictator complies, what matters is that the overall system complies. There's still quite some inertia left in the gears of the rule of law, people around Trump (not him, he doesn't care nor does he understand) know how to attack that but chances are they're severely underestimating the task. Unlike back in the Weimar Republic, you e.g. don't have a country full of judges considering law passed by parliament to not even be law because law must be passed by the Kaiser.

    Noticed how the Border Tsar backed off when Newson (what's he spelled I don't care) told him "go, come arrest me"? That's not the behaviour of a viceroy of a dictator, that's the behaviour of one who would like to have that power, but doesn't.

    One of the first things btw that the Nazis did was to (functionally) dissolve the states and put them under direct federal control. That's another reason why you want to shout "state's rights" right now.

    Not everyone can or should be in black bloc sabotaging ICE vehicles

    The fuck are you doing that as a black bloc. Those are a lightning rod for police violence so that others can protest in peace, you don't want the sabotage squad to be a lightning rod, you want them to be ninjas. Unseen, unheard, unnoticed. More of a warning west and not black hoodie kind of task.

    And, see, suddenly we're talking black blocs. An actual tactic. One that acknowledges the importance of peaceful protest, at the very least the necessity to separate yourself from the overall crowd, so that liberals can go to baby's first protest because we want them in the street, actually seeing shit, feeling vibes, and not in front of the TV, watching propaganda. Not, as in the OP, "fuck this shit I want to smash things", at least that's the vibes that I got: Justification for a foregone conclusion, not a plan grown out of analysis of the overall situation.

  • Nina going off today

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  • You want to wait that long do something? Be my guest.

    Who said anything about waiting? Stop posting and organise that shit. Don't look at me I'm on the other side of the Atlantic.

    Nothing the protestors actually do will move the needle - it’s the extreme overreaction of the fed that will.

    Please look up opinion polling after the Kent State Massacre: It took years for public opinion to shift away from "the National Guard did nothing wrong". For what you say to occur the overreaction has to not just be extreme, it also has to be obvious -- like the Aussie journalist which got shot, that's a good video. Things don't become more obviously an overreaction when cars are burning and shopfronts are deglassed.

    Liberals need to pick a lane - either trump is a dictator who must be removed before he solidifies his hold on power, or we need to conduct ourselves until the midterms so that we can vote our way out.

    I wouldn't argue for either. Both are unrealistic for various reasons and the latter isn't a good in itself. What you want to do is obstruct the fuck out the feds so they fall on their face, that's best done on a level of state and lower administrations. California isn't cooperating with ICE so make sure to have the state's back. Yes, I, an anarchist is saying "have the state's back", fascism is too large a threat to risk over feelings of disgust regarding liberal democracy. Last thing you want is the Governor seeing himself in a situation where he has to ask the feds to intervene to keep (a semblance of) order instead of being able to say "fuck off feds we got this".

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  • They don’t need an excuse.

    To shoot? No. To justify themselves in the media, in the public eye? Yes.

    It’s also wild to me that ‘throwing stones’ is somehow seen as more violent than literal fucking munitions and chemical weapons.

    It's not. That's as much a shitlib take as "police violence isn't violence because it's state violence".

    But it's the perception that exists among the population, you're not going to change it by throwing stones.

    Communities are fighting against unaccountable and un-identifiable gestapo pigs blackbagging innocent children

    You know what people did to protect Jews from the Gestapo? Hide them. You can't protect them by throwing stones for the simple reason that police dgaf when they're hit by stones, they'll just blackbag you alongside.

    Look there's exactly one thing I'm saying here: Act strategically. I'm not arguing against violence because it's evil -- at most, violence is unaesthetic. I'm arguing against it because, unless you start an actual insurrection with plans to take on and take out the military, it's ineffective. Just because your pigs are worse than what we're dealing with over here doesn't mean that lashing out at them suddenly becomes good praxis. You're there to have an effect, not to blow off steam.

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  • There's a massive fucking vibe difference between a crowd taking cover behind whatever is at hand and one setting fire to shit and throwing back stones is all I'm saying. Be the former vibe. Stones aren't going to stop them. Assault rifles and tanks wouldn't stop them. Pining for escalation hands them excuses on a platter for no strategic gain whatsoever, it's pissing in the wind. The only law you should be breaking is refusing to follow a dispersal order, or at least take your sweet time with it, everything else is fedposting.

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  • There's a much better reason to not be violent: So that you can get more people onto the streets. Figures that most people don't fancy dodging burning trash cans and you want everybody on the streets, not just your polycule. People need to feel like they're safe at the protest, the only danger there is is coming from the state.

  • Norway outlaws sex without consent as Europe strengthens rape laws

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  • Shoe's a populist socdem, which isn't the majority of her content that'd be her having no respect for identity politics.

  • Zelenskyy: We’re very close to point when Russia can be forced to end this war

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  • I’m saying that the Russian empire was different, and even the USSR was different.

    Different, yes of course, what I'm trying to get at here is that there's still consistencies. The three systems are different coats of paint on the same dysfunction. There's also been some progress, I already mentioned the nuclear family, but the overall problem won't be fixed until the dysfunction is understood, organically, by society.

    That’s where you are wrong.

    As you might have guessed, one can’t punish FSB for entrapment, they are the ones doing the punishing.

    I don't think we actually disagree: The forces that I described breed the type of people the FSB needs to do its enforcement. Cynical, ruthless, eager to suppress their trauma by inflicting it on others. In Tsarist times there was more, religion and all that, a very old notion of what God's plan for society is, roles for everyone, in the USSR at least a number of them were actually ideologically convinced, by now, power is the only ideology. They're mighty so they must be right, don't they?

    Except see my previous part about special services’ work. The real problem is not in nobody willing to organize.

    Russia had a revolution before, it can have one again. Bluntly put: The Kremlin guards are less well armed than Ukraine. Revolutions aren't organised, they happen once the collective psyche reaches a breaking point. No words, just people's subconsciousness noticing the mood of the people around them, assessing the chances: "Am I going to be alone, or are we going to march together?" and suddenly decades happen in weeks.

    What would be important is having a couple of ideas on what will come after that. How to not lose the moment, again. Who would be the current-day Bolsheviks, opposed to the deposed-of system but also to the freedom of the people? How to convince Yuri Shevchuk to accept being crowned Tsar. I'm only half joking.

  • Zelenskyy: We’re very close to point when Russia can be forced to end this war

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  • And that stuff about Europe and homosexuality seems for me a kind of “the hungry doesn’t understand the full”, more of jokes and separation than of really thinking that’s true.

    I'm talking about an underlying psychosexual current. Of course people don't believe in the literal truth of these kinds of things, it'd be like believing that dreams are literally true. But there's still a reason why you're having these particular kinds of dreams, and not different ones.

    They followed their own laws. If a law was too cumbersome to make, they didn’t. It was an absolute monarchy, but if you compare today’s Russia’s judicial system to the imperial one - the latter seems very humane.

    Do you think it's even constitutional for Putin to deputise people with presidential powers? That any court would challenge him? Law in Russia was, and is, subordinate to the powers that be.

    Nah, not that. If we make this comparison, for them it’s the father’s right, and you are subordinate. It’s not about fear of punishment, it’s about enduring for endurance’s sake. Almost morality.

    That's the attitude of those considered strong, yes. You either become them or you break and end up with a tattoo saying "slave" on your forehead or something.

    People who you are maybe looking for here are not those who try to somehow explain the state’s justifications for this war.

    I'm not talking about the state's justification, but about the justification of the cultural psyche. Russia, as a psyche, doesn't want to see Ukrainians with forehead tattoos, it wants Ukraine to be part of it. Part of the same ethos, with maybe slightly different dances, clothing, and they can continue pronouncing things with h instead of g as long as they admit they're Russians, that they accept, as you put it above, the father's authority. And the only way that psyche knows how to convince the son of the father's authority is by cruelty.

    The virtuous suffering thing is often stupid, but sometimes a strength.

    It's not. It destroys social cohesion, it breeds neurosis. With true courage, it doesn't matter whether you live or die for the cause, as long as the cause is virtuous. This Russian strength, though, it only can ever make sense if you're dying for it, living for it indeed is stupid, at the same time its strength in dying for it is not stronger than that of true courage. It's precisely why Russians don't know where the fuck that cart is racing. But go, it must. Why. Why not make camp and have a party.

    The reason is simple: Without the people neurotic, distrustful, and accustomed to bowing to authority, the central authority would fall, because people would actually be able to organise bottom-up. The central authority knows that, and thus does nothing to combat it, the people, well, it's Russia's only way to greatness, isn't it? Any alternatives?

    Which brings me to Navalny's balls of steel, returning to Russia: Yes, that's impressive. That's strong, "virtuous suffering". But it's also accepting the status quo. You can't be a revolutionary against a system by holding onto the ethos that fuels it.

  • Zelenskyy: We’re very close to point when Russia can be forced to end this war

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  • There’s just one thing that Russians really lack - understanding of the importance of truth.

    Now that is a universal human trait.

    For an American or a German it takes belief in a propaganda device to follow it. For a Russian - just acceptance that it’s likelier to be better in some way.

    Americans don't believe in, whatnot, manifest destiny, their exceptionalism, they live it. Germans certainly don't believe in classism, yet we're living it. Generally speaking: The stuff that people are actually following is not found on the propaganda level, but on a level below that, on a cultural carrier wave so to speak. Why propagandise something that people are doing, anyway? Doesn't make sense.

    No. Just the belief that there’s some deeper grey wisdom, a secret, and you’d be an idiot to just give yourself to some specific idea.

    That's just bug-standard metamodernism collapsed into fascism, that is, regressed into modernism. Just to explains terms: Modernism is the age of grand ideas, "one true path to absolve humankind", while postmodernism is the "yo all that stuff is BS anyway we don't know shit". You see those forces oscillating throughout history, metamodernism means their co-existence.

    That belief might very well what people are telling themselves, but it's a shallow analysis. The "deeper grey wisdom" (interesting that you used "grey" btw, "it must be ancient" -- why?) is Snokhachestvo, and not the practice itself but the cultural attitudes that enable(d) it. Russia made some progress overcoming that shit, e.g. normalising nuclear families instead of communal ones (the one crucial achievement of the USSR), but the underlying cultural beliefs stay uninterrogated, able to perpetuate themselves. Thus men do to their sons what their fathers did to them, think that's what being a man is all about, and if you don't use whatever power and might you have to be cruel, you're obviously gay. Like Europe.

    That is what I meant with "a belief in might makes right".

    A whole country of cynics thinking they know better.

    Germany has 80 million national football team trainers. There seems to be a pattern here: Declaring universal human traits as specifically Russian. Those traits are true, no doubt, but they're not unique.

    That’s not how central power functioned back then, and what happens now is a mafia group gratuitously using its vast human resources to just have fun.

    It didn't? The Tsar and the viceroys, plundering the country and living the good life. The General Secretariat or even Secretary and the Nomenklatura, plundering the country and living the good life. "Everyone is equal, but some are more equal than others". In either case, highly authoritarian societies, with varying levels of totalitarianism. Such a setup requires cruelty and ruthlessness, and there's no shortage of either because, according to Russian culture throughout the ages, good fathers make sure that their sons are strong men by raping the son's wife. Metaphorically speaking, at least: The "sons" might be subordinate soldiers, and the "wife" their pay checks and materiel. In the position of son, you're just expected to take it, otherwise you're weak, and the "father" will make sure that's an even worse fate. The Siloviki do indeed want to free Ukrainians -- so they bomb cities. Free them from their "European gayness", that is. Such is the perversity of the Russian psyche.

    Or, differently put: You sure you're looking at the water you're swimming in? I'm not Russian, I only lived there, and I was able to see the water. Swimming feels quite a bit different in Russia than it does virtually everywhere else.

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  • No, it’s not any more a Russian weakness than an American one, even less than a Japanese or a Chinese one.

    Russians don't have the "fuck the feds" grassroots rebelliousness of Americans, they don't have a honour/respectability culture like the Japanese not to mention that Russians have basically no civil society while Japan (as a stem family culture) has a very strong one, and unlike the Chinese Russians are fatalist AF, don't really have expectations about things becoming better for them. If the CCP had started this shit they would've lost the mandate of heaven quite a while ago.

    But I agree, it's not so much a strong man fetish. It's an acceptance of might makes right combined with social acceptance of tyrannical behaviour on the individual level and, consequently, high distrust among individuals stopping the formation of a civil society.

    Russian society hasn't fundamentally changed since the days of the Tsars, they've gone through various paint-coats while sticking to the same overarching organisational structure: Central power delegates exploitation of people, the environment etc to viceroys in exchange for loyalty, meanwhile acquisition of new colonial subjects is ongoing as, being built on terror, the imperial core can never feel safe and needs to bash something to distract itself from its vulnerability.

  • Well whenever you notice something like that, a wizard did it

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  • So that wasn't sarcasm? Interesting. Possible instance of backwards causation, the physicists will be ecstatic.

  • Well whenever you notice something like that, a wizard did it

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  • If that's a steelman then it's definitely at forging temperature (which jet fuel btw can achieve easily), collapsing under its own weight.

    Try this: Is it consistent to believe that evolution is the means by which God created, and continues to create, creatures? Does "well evolution just happens" have more, less, or equally much of an argument for itself? Note: Blindly assuming naturalism instead of God's will doesn't count because neither of those are falsifiable.

    Thing is: There's more than one way to connect the data points into an overall theory. Those theories try to explain the data points by starting from made-up axioms, and naturalism is just as much made-up as the Spaghetti monster. Unless you want to posit some kind of Platonism?

  • Well whenever you notice something like that, a wizard did it

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  • Psi research is a fascinating field, responsible for lots of improvements in study design, metastudy statistics and criteria, whatnot.

    Like, it is hard to control your experiment so that you don't accidentally measure side channels as telepathy or whatnot. Or subjects having hit rates because they have the same cognitive bias as experimenters selecting cards "at random". The list is endless.

    Sceptic: "Your study has these and these flaws". Psi researcher: "We're using state of the art experimental design, accepted in every other field, and are open to suggestions". Sceptic "...damnit". I guess at least half of Psi researchers are consciously trolling for the heck of it, the bulk of the rest is dabblers, full-on crackpots are actually a rarity. Crackpots don't tend to have the wherewithal to get their stuff into a form that's even remotely publishable.

  • Canada won’t become the 51st US state – but could it join the EU?

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  • On the flipside there's overseas territories which don't use the Euro, and there's been plenty of talk of a multi-speed Europe. Single market won't be negotiable, though, so there's going to be inspections at the border keeping refrigerated eggs and chlorinated chickens out.

  • Japanese queue for hours as rice shortage deepens

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  • ...that's exactly what I mean. All the broken bits and pieces get shipped to Germany to make Milchreis because it really doesn't matter what the grains look like if you're soaking them to smithereens anyway. Into pudding, that is. Which you should totally try on a cold day: Dump into sweetened milk (vanilla if you want), quick boil, 30-40 minutes of soaking at falling/low heat, add cinnamon, maybe some coarse raw sugar for texture variation, eat as-is or with apple sauce.

    Only got Jasmin or such at home and still crave the stuff? Well, prepare it. Nothing's stopping you.

  • Gnome adds Pride wallpapers! 🏳️‍🌈

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  • Links but no screenshots, insert joke about Gnome's UX.

  • Japanese queue for hours as rice shortage deepens

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  • Not just Asia, Italians and Spaniards are also quite particular about rice.

  • Japanese queue for hours as rice shortage deepens

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  • 1kg bags in Germany cost 2.50 Euro for Jasmin, 3 for Basmati. One Euro for cheap parboiled. All discounter store brand. Risotto 2 Euro, that stuff is grown in Italy.

    ...10kg prices are practically identical, or better put if you shop at a place than sells 10kg bags suddenly the 1kg bags are expensive.

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    Putin facing new 'invasion' as 1m-strong antelope swarm destroys Russia's crops

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  • Russia by and large doesn't give a shit about its nature as long as it's huge and can be exploited so it's not like they're producing many documentaries etc. about it.

    This is a cool project, though: Re-creating megafauna habitat, turning tundra into steppe. And in true Russian fashion, in lieu of living mammoths running over trees they used a tank.