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  • No harassment is harassment, saying that they did shit they didn't do and said shit they didnt say is called gas-lighting and is defined as psychological abuse.

    https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/gaslighting

    Also bot votes don't matter so I was pointing to that idea

    "State-sponsored comment farms, often referred to as "troll farms," are organized groups that create and disseminate online comments and content to influence public opinion and manipulate discussions, typically in favor of government narratives. These operations are often linked to specific countries, such as Russia, where they employ paid commentators to spread disinformation across social media and forums."

    https://spideraf.com/articles/the-rise-of-click-farms-and-their-impact-on-digital-advertising-and-online-engagement

  • 2 down votes in a few minutes buddy. There ain't no one reading this post that are that opinionated in the 2 minutes that took. So I threw some shade 😎

  • My friend? Oh right the innocent person you were psychologically abusing

  • That your a intentionally placed comment farmer playing to whatever side pays you the most or an ideological comment farmer who works for a government likely highly supportive of the USA 👍

  • See how you just gaslight and deflect again and again like a pattern? Its because it is a pattern, one youre deliberately following.

    This is how you can tell. Real people don't usually do that (unless they're embarrassingly in the wrong and/or are emotionally triggered about it and are just having a freakout about it)

    See how its never about the conversation never about the point, just about winning some invisible game they're playing?

    Thats what a bot having a goal is or just a person playing bullshit games and if its all about some government bs (China bad! Say it!), chances are good its some state-sponsored clown sitting on some government desk writing that shit out

  • When tf did I say state sponsored surveillance it was OK? Never that's when.

    They made a level headed comment about how prevalent state sponsored spying is in GENERAL is bad and how everybody's doing it and you went fucking bonkers about it.

    Then you come in with your imply, instigate shit that sounded like an LLM threw up all over the comment section

    Posts like yours are easy to spot but hard to prove to the rest of the herd because maybe your just some asshat not an actual threat because they really don't want to believe that's how the world works. Cause they're people that like the blissful ignorance or are just lazy/apathetic

    But this is clearly tactically applied, and intentional manipulation of the conversation, and while its effective on some clowns its dishonest and its not effective on anyone else outside the uninformed people your playing to rn

  • Incite shit, imply shit, derail shit Incite shit, imply shit, derail shit

    Fucking state sponsored, tactical bullshit

    Nationalism might be problematic. And can be cancer but only if its not warranted. Like for ingroup validation. But if your nation is making a real effort and you are putting in real work to be part of that effort. Its fine really

    Tell me, is ALL spying bad XLE? (Taking a page from your book to point out how disingenuous it sounded when you did that to Melusine)

    (Btw the translation in human terms is something along the lines of "dance for me internet monkey" and it's abuser tactics and usually a red flag)

  • Tagging in here cause youre obtuse af

    Inherently? No. Its always a manner of why and how, whats to gain, whats done with it after, ect.

    Like literally everything else morality is a construct determined by every factor that makes it up, every influence, every refraction, of every effect it had over infinity

    Punching you in the face, moral? Idk, maybe. It depends I guess

    Do you understand a little better? Now stop the posturing games once you calm tf down plz

  • It's the concept that it is good to moderate these spaces like that that bothers. As a human I need to be challenged and that includes dealing with perceptibly negative commentary from people. Not just some whitewashed version of some propagandized online personas masquerading as the the "best" of human beings.

    Like IRL, any truly gratifying social function includes the possibility of heated debate and some real feelings exchanged, real things happening outside your comfort zone, not politeness theater that reassures us we are the betters in this society. And that's all to common thinking nowadays, that we are agreeable and therfore the best thing you can be, like thats what polite type dicks/assholes are honestly. And there's a reason you turn to online spaces to validate yourselves. Because people dont actually like you enough IRL. And you want to get social stuff done here. Likely to just exchange prefab thinking which is OK. But they want to moderate Piefed to keep it 'whitewashed' and that's insulting to human intelligence and experience IMHO

    Its not your dinner party just because its your server. And if that's why you made it. Then I think that's self-centered, self-masturbatory and generally uncool shit instead the awesome federated space filled with reasonably unfiltered ideas that it was supposed to have been/could have been.

    Semi moderated spaces are wonderful. If its not actually bad don't worry about it type deal. Learn to ignore, filter and move on. Just like real life. Ive reported like 3 posts total and I've had death threats levied and some insane people saying some intentionally horrible shit. OK, oh well, learned some shit about myself or something outside, got stronger, moved on a better more capable person. Part of life. Its not going away because you removed it from the public forum. I feel like unless its really bad. It should be witnessed. Someone got hurt by that? How much? Really? Or is it just playing into some newfound posturing contest type thing? Because that just creates a new power structure, one where to be hurt tactically in order to invalidate or validate the discussion accordingly is used and abused. Overprotection comes with serious downsides, it feels like people here dont understand this concept. You will NEVER be able to handle or win power over yourself or the world it by hiding away from what it is.

    So I appreciate the clarity but I still don't approve of the sentiment and frankly neither should you. It alienates like 50 percent of the world and all the contributions negative and inflammatory people can make (which is plenty, truly.)

    Ive needed people to hammer into me, call me on my bullshit, and not elate just cause its perceptually harmful to my wellbeing. That's the point. It hurt. I have to adjust or accept being a plaything for those that will do that for whatever reasons. And that's no way to conduct yourself honestly. And many others will need that to grow and overcome things (trauma bullshit, groupthink bs, propaganda bs et al.)

    I understand wanting to make safe space for people to be in but GYATT DAMN were past the point of that utility and that being good when you start talking about making some voices (negative ones, less visible by DESIGN)

    People need to be able to make social mistakes and/or be assholes and get called on it and to leave it up as an example, not simply delete it and def not hide away from that all the time. Its helpful if people can learn to perceive things like that and toughen up so that the world doesn't hurt us as much and we can contribute better as a member of civilization. Negative people are part of the world and have plenty to say btw. I LOVE to see those kinds of comments so this is strait bs from that POV. You can jerk off each other as much as you want but thats still gonna be true at the end of the day, and probably forever.

    Guess its time to plan out a proper server and compete at that level. Cause this circlejerking shit is just a bit too like Reddit. And I have the technical skill, I just don't want to have to put in that high a level of effort to wake people up to that I guess.

    Sort of sorry for the essay here. Sort of not. Obviously felt it was necessary. Not all positivity is actually good positivity. And I think negative people and down voters should be equal on their own merits (tho with moderating decisions it might be considered it should almost always be by comment as well as context aware. Not just to label them as a "bad person" so your not allowed to be here type groupthinking bullshit) Each comment moderated equally on its own merits. Always and forever. (unless specifically necessary due to some incredibly remarkable circumstance and even then be SUPER careful because otherwise you miss out on the other HALF the world that will still impact your everyday life whether you understand it/that, or witness it/that, or not.

    Especially for the younger ones still trying to figure it out, its better to understand wtf is going on out there then to be caught by surprise or be unable to participate in the world because they can't handle it as a result of this cowardice. Its not doing the world any favors. Keep the actual bots out. Leave the negativity in as long as its not an actual hazard.

  • Jesus Christ I hate that the internet is turning this space into your shitty fucking idea of a dinner party

    It's negative! Oh no better hide that, because some jerks decided being polite is the ultimate Maxim of human expression

  • This is a really good read, not sure why its not being appreciated more

    Well thought out and well done, thanks for sharing

    Guess it just kinda pisses everyone off by not "taking a side" on this set of issues but its a rock solid blogpost for anyone IMO

  • So your argument is that you are unintelligent... Interesting defense

    Evidence is abounding

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/rothschilds-facts-inside-history-s-richest-family/

    https://theenterpriseworld.com/the-rothschild-family/

    Also good non answer on why you even comment at all, it does require motivation but you are obviously disguising as just some guy who happens knows a ton about them but won't say why and is just wanting everyone to know how has-been they are now apparently, again without any actual reason lmao

    Your not discussing anything honestly, your just derailing and trolling which is PR and Marketing firms 101 for comment farms and paid bots and it just so HAPPENS your following that pattern too. Must be a coincidence there as well.

    Lots of that with you rn, weird eh?

    As pointed out that is a deliberate effort your making and needs to have a motivation to support it (that you seem super uninterested in answering anything about)

  • Between offshore banks, shell companies, their own private trusts and the attorney client privilege that protects them they can hide their true wealth, thats how the mega rich do shit. Away of the eyes of an average persons ability to concretely know whats going on there.

    That there is a list of people that don't do that very well (or just don't want to be bothered to go through all that extra effort when they really just don't have so much to gain from obscuring their wealth to that degree)

    But really you seem to know (and CARE) so much about the Rothschild's, so it does beg the question.

    Why do you even care enough to defend them here? Like I know why I dont. They are at the center of or, at very least, concerningly involved with, every major social and economic upset in my country for the last 200 years or more. For profit and power fantasy playing mostly based on the information available

    (But also lots of Epstein-like weird shit. Like that I can do anything and because I'm interconnected with power groups, because Im so wealthy, I can pay people to do almost everything I want to (including manipulate, threaten and/or torture and kill people on their behalf) and also I'm so interconnected to all these powerful people that I'm basically untouchable and ungovernable and am permitted by governments because the public can't know how it works out there, now i can do almost whatever to almost whoever unless but I'm digressing too much from the point)

    Never heard anyone defend anyones honor like this without a heck of a reason. So let's hear it or fuck off with what appears to be, a disingenuous and half-assed commentary to derail the conversation away from that exact thing. Possibly deliberately.

    Such as when a PR firm gets hired to defend someones reputation due to say... a certain lawsuit that's getting their family some bad press and/or negative attention and would be getting paid to accomplish

    https://leveragewithmedia.com/public-relations-firms-guide/

  • No you do not wish me well you lying ass bitch

    No its not OK you deserve whatever you get with your data sharing bullshit

    Ooh look I'm so stable and secure (youre not or you could read shit like that without breaking) and youre so mad someone called you out so well you decided to fuck with them all polite like that makes you better then everyone else

    Your self-aggrandizing award is in the mail and should be there in 3-5 business days 👍

  • Talk about the ick

    Fuck off back to obscurity you game playing ass

  • Influence isn't what was being pointed out you disingenuous coward

    They ARE extremely powerful, they are extremely wealthy. That much is concrete

    Less influence then a king isn't suddenly make you a peasant.

    They have slightly less power and influence, displayed in places you can easily witness it, since the 1800s. But wait! They also have a fuckton more money then they had (which by definition, is power and influence)

    Huh still on top of the world then? Thanks for coming in you silly little man. Woman? Nonbinary person? Doesn't matter really

  • Fuck you im not your god damn dancing internet monkey

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_family 😎

    You made claims man, now you give me a source of how it hasn't consolidated. (Even tho that doesn't matter in the slightest when it comes to modern day wealth empires like this but who cares its the about the principle now)

    Now dance monkey. Dance.

  • Its not about consolidation man its how its grown from what it was over the course of time and how its grown enough to keep up with any dilution they may have experienced as time passed

    And they don't just let anybody walk around with their name man. They take their shit seriously. Its a pretty serious family there you are acting like is some scattered diluted group like some old royals that fell out of favor and died out or something

    Its grown and grown and grown over a loooog time and historically NOT reduced hence them being such a prime example of this type of wealth and hence my commentary about you being intentionally obtuse