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  • No, lifting an original vehicle type doesn’t change its type unless we collectively decide as a society or industry that it does. Your point is true for first generation Foresters. It’s not for today’s, though, which mine is as a 2025.

    I’m not sure what you’re trying to argue or trying to get me to change my mind about it, but a crossover is literally an SUV by today’s standards. Definitions change and there are a multitude of articles that discuss this.

    “…over time, crossover came to refer predominantly to unibody-based SUVs. The term SUV is often used as an umbrella term for both crossovers and traditional SUVs due to the similarities between them.”

    Like I said, if you want to disagree then fine. I’m not changing my stance because there are plenty of articles from the industry that support my point about crossovers being an SUV.

    I do appreciate you having me think more about this though! It’s an interesting discussion.

  • Yeah. The Sonata is a fairly big for a mid-size sedan.

    I guess when I say size it’s a combo of length and width but also height. Ground clearance is a big one.

  • My point is they specifically called out SUVs and only SUVs. You are making my point right here that the issue isn’t SUVs but likely size and efficiency of the vehicle. I just thought calling out only SUVs was a weird broad criticism.

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  • I'm curious though, what in your mind makes a Forester an SUV rather than a wagon? Disregard any external labels that others have applied. How you would classify the vehicle.

    Great question. I’ve never really thought about that, but I’d probably say size and design (boxy-ish looks). Beyond that, categorization by the companies making and rating them is what I go by.

    But it does mean that the “sedan vs SUV” MPG comparison is obfuscated by a faulty premise.

    What faulty premise? Do mid size and large sedans have fuel efficiency and vehicle length that cross into the small and mid size SUV range? I compared them because the original comment was essentially “I hope the high gas really fucks SUVs”. Why SUVs specifically? Which SUVs? No mention of large sedans, trucks, vans, etc.

    My comparison was to point out that a singular broad criticism was sort of a weird idea when there are so many other factors.

  • Well, I disagree with your argument about SUV classification so we will agree to disagree here.

    I think my issue is that SUV efficiency is a range just like sedans are a range, trucks, vans, compacts, etc. So at what point is it really fuck this type of car versus fuck vehicles that have this specific fuel efficiency.

    My entire point was the person I replied to said fuck SUVs and AI. Hey, I get it but SUVs aren’t the problem, vehicle efficiency is and many classes cross over into that “fuck this” point. That's really the crux of my first reply here was that it was a broad stroke and if you’re going to say fuck something because of its contribution then maybe don’t be so broad and targeted?

  • I’m saying person I responded to made a blanket statement about people owning a broad category of car. I pointed out that there are nuances and taking on particular broad group isn’t probably the right take. Using broad strokes is bad.

    I’m not really sure what your stake is in being angry with your replies. If that isn’t your intent, that’s how it is coming across.

    I used American SUVs because I was trying to talk about American buyers since this seemed to be aimed at the USA with the mention of gallons (yeah, other counties use it, but come on…we know it was meant towards the USA). Yes, I misused what I was trying to say.

  • A Forester is still an SUV. It’s classified as an SUV whether you like it or not. A crossover SUV is still an SUV. It’s a subclass, but falls under the umbrella.

    Sonata: 25/37 Forester: 26/33

    They are fairly close in stats.

    Look, I get what you’re saying. The whole thing is these vehicles are a range and people are driving what they can. To just give a blanket “fuck these people for this broad category” seems weird to me.

    I am merely pointing out nuances and I don’t understand what is triggering some people to turn into a hostile jack ass for pointing something out. 🤷‍♂️

  • I see. So I’m an asshole for pointing out nuances?

    Average size for American sedans is 12-18 gallons. That’s a range, but I do loooooove that you presented the low end as fact. Claps for you!

  • Hmm.

    I own a 2015 Hyundai Sonata (base model) which is a sedan, not an SUV. The gas tank capacity is 18 gallons.

    I also own a 2025 Subaru Forester (Premium model), which is an SUV and has a gas tank capacity of approximately 17 gallons.

    Difference is roughly the same between a sedan and an SUV and both use 87 octane.

  • He probably does. The problem is it’s hard as hell to teach kids already. People think they’re going to sit there and learn from an AI?!

    Lmfao! You’ll have to strap them into a chair and force them to do things. They won’t log in or sit there and do work for an AI. They already won’t do it for a teacher who tries praise, rewards, and has their parents on speed dial.

  • Been singing that for years. My wife can’t unhear it.

    In Jingle Bell Rock, I always hear “giddy up, jingle whores, pick up your feet!”

  • We're the redneck kings of funk!]https//youtu.be/sHF7lD2fnho)

    I always heard, “We’re the renegades who fuck! Fuck!”

  • Fantastic. Thank you for this. I’d never heard of them before, so I’ll check it out.

  • What is criterion?

  • Corsets were awful: only when you tight laced, and the majority of women didn't. Corsets and stays were designed to support the boobs and smooth out clothing. That's it.

    So they are just a semi prototype Spanx?

  • Vance is less charismatic than Trump and MAGA (or perhaps Republicans who were leaning that way) has people waking up and pushing back. Approval is going down and courts are even doing some things against his power now.

    Despite Vance being smarter, if they can’t pull this off under their own charismatic leader with a major base backing them then I doubt Vance could do much. I think he’d get even more push back from courts and I doubt the military would side with the couch fucker if he tried to actually push martial law or turn the military against the people.

    In short, Vance’s agenda would be the same as Trump’s and if it’s not popular now, do we really think it would be successful with a less charismatic person in charge?

  • Didn’t the kid (Spud) also spout off about “school code”?

    I don’t know any schools that let you video record in a school without consent. Dude is wearing a recording device as glasses and did not get consent from anyone in the school. That’s against school code, bruuuuuuuuuuuh.

  • As someone in the classrooms (student teaching in fifth grade in Illinois), I don’t disagree that the tech provides this. However, I also see how it benefits the students with workflow and access to a diverse form on texts which is needed for a multitude of diverse learners whether they are multilingual, have a disability of some kind, are special education, or have IEPs or 504s.

    The access to parents at home with instant ability to the same videos or resources as well as translation tools can mean more parental help for the kids.

    What I see as the problem is that the way we measure students and their cognitive knowledge/capabilities hasn’t changed with how we teach. Everything is to the test and set up without any national standards. I see kids able to make some amazing inferences and see patterns with small prompting and the ability to deep think is there even with tech being a huge part of the classroom.

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    Gaming Laptop Recs?

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    What happened to FlyingSquid?

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    Tired of Hawk Tua, but this is a good usage

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    No apologies as Reddit halfheartedly tries to repair ties with moderators

    arstechnica.com /gadgets/2023/07/reddit-makes-no-apologies-but-offers-disgruntled-mods-feedback-sessions/