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T34_69 [none/use name]

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  • Fair points, I'll look into those when I have time / attention span again. I've probably only seen like 5% of their entire posting here. For the time being though,

    and we should just be OK with that because they "have good takes" or are "ahead of the curve" or whatever.

    Yeah I do agree with that actually, it sounds reasonable unless and until I find something concrete that changes that.

  • If it doesn't matter then why argue about it either way? Like why bother

  • What else are they supposed to do? There's no user union and the rules say if you get banned, then create another account, so banning them for "ban evasion alts" actually doesn't make sense. And if they get death threats / death wishes from one aggressive user who likes to verbally abuse people in arguments, then I can't fault them for wanting to come back and argue for themselves, especially when other people wouldn't want to wade into that personal shitstorm to defend them for fear of catching that verbal abuse or bans.

    Also, burning that flag is for you because it's for humanity, and besides, a lot of our future actually pivots around Palestine, it's not just a regional issue.

  • Also like, no one who's not a fascist should have to worry about catching verbal abuse and death wishes for posting their opinion here. imo.

  • Almost as though we're mostly free thinking grown-ups who can sort these things out when we're not banned for expressing our opinions or afraid of catching a ban for doing so

  • Very cool and not at all abusive and insulting, especially when we're all conscious about doxxing and are averse to talking about what we actually do IRL and therefore can't meaningfully defend ourselves

  • Okay but... now that we've laid it out in the open with a referendum from YSF, it seems like the supermajority opinion of the site actually agrees with Z's position on this one. It seems most people agree that radical Anti-Zionism is the correct position here. Shouldn't that be taken into account?

    EDIT: Sometimes it takes one particularly loud and persistent person to agitate until they get clobbered for the majority to speak up to change the state of things. Shouldn't there be reconciliation when that happens?

  • Very understandable, I'm with you, more power to you

  • I definitely don't want to have people feel like their standpoint is being suppressed

    But Lyudmila... with all due respect (because I enjoy hanging out on this site in between bouts with hellworld), that's factually what happened here

  • Apparently they're so good at posting that their alts write with completely different voices and personalities! Truly a superhuman poster.

  • Z_Poster adds a lot to the discourse of the site IMO and I've found myself siding with their takes more often than not in a controversy, I was bummed when I saw they were banned and why. Using the reason of ban evasion alts seems to me like a smokescreen because what were they banned for in the first place? I haven't seen any bigotry from them but maybe I don't really spend as much time on the site as I thought. Maybe they're abrasive and they should chill out but I can't really blame them considering how they're being treated. The crackerdom is palpable tbh, this is a chance to reverse that.

    EDIT: Also they said they're Arab and the other users circling around them I'm pretty sure are white, and the context here is the Israeli genocide on Palestine. Come on now.

  • I support adding this one as well, it makes me chuckle

    EDIT: Oof. Unfortunate context, never mind.

  • If that's true then honestly wtf are we doing here? Unban them

  • Yeah and I feel like what's missing from this conversation is what were they banned for in the first place? I can see ban evasion being irritating to the mod team, who are volunteers so imo they should be given a lot of grace, but honestly, ban evasion for what? Being abrasive? Well then you'd have to ban like half the site. But anyway, this is very offtopic, but it seems it warrants its own thread.

  • Also the alt-jacketing against other users in that thread was low-key offensive. Yes other people share the same opinion, we definitely exist.

  • You're right, they did catch a bunch of derision for it and rightfully so, it's a liberal move and if hexbear is to be anything other than a bunch of liberals I think this is a fantastic growth opportunity

  • I also think z poster should be unbanned

    I agree and wasn't actually aware they had a bunch of ban evasion alts, but that's a topic for another thread.

  • Also thank you for making the emojis on this site, it wouldn't be nearly as fun or hilarious without them. ❤️