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  • Well it's not like Biden/Harris actually tried for a ceasefire. There's really not much change other than the quiet part being said out loud.

  • This isn't about them. A disproportionate amount of women are victims of violence, sexual assault, and rape. Their safety should take priority over the feelings of others. If a man actually sympathizes with this they wouldn't have their self esteem take a hit and would instead understand why actions like this are necessary as we work to address this issue in our society.

  • You don't have to be a rapist to make someone feel unsafe. Creeps and people who just keep hitting on women when they clearly don't want them to exist as well.

  • Its not about fighting rapists, It's about letting women have an environment where they can feel safe.

  • My wife and I have pensions plans. We won't retire for another 35 or 40 years but that's the plan.

  • You bring up a good point regarding the Jewish voters but there's still strong evidence that claims she would have gained more than she would have lost. There's a lot of hypotheticals regarding this situation and some factors that don't come into play like the lobbying money that the Harris campaign would have lost and the crap Trump would have said (other than what he already did). So I'm sure we can talk about this topic for a very long time.

    If Vice-President Harris were to demand an immediate ceasefire that would allow unimpeded aid into Gaza, such a move would be strongly supported by her voters while being opposed by only a scant number. A detailed view of the cross-tabulations shows significant gain and very little risk for Harris by taking this stand - including very positive outcomes and few negatives among most key groups, including a plurality of Jewish voters. It would also win her the support of a plurality of those voters who are currently supporting third party candidates or who remain undecided.

    Overall, if Harris where to take this stand, her vote tally would increase from 44% to 50%.

    The same results hold true if Harris were to suspend arms shipments and withhold diplomatic support for Israel until there was a ceasefire and withdrawal of forces from Gaza. Such a stand would also increase her support from 44% to 49%

    Aside from that, I just wanted to say that I remember you and I had a brief conversation in the Political Discussion community a few weeks back and you mentioned how much Trump and MAGA had affected your personal life. I just wanted to say I'm sorry you're going through this again and wish you the best, for whatever it's worth. Neither of us wanted another Trump presidency (and I'm not even American), and I hope the next 4 years are good to you.

  • I thought the same as well, for a time at least. I'm not sure if it was just me being hopeful or what. I got the impression that she was slightly more sympathetic to the whole situation than Biden was for sure though. That being said, I definitely think her stance hurt her more than helped her. There's polls saying she would have won a lot of votes in several swing states if she changed her stance. And we know that the war was unpopular with majority of Americans, especially Democrats. My guess is that lobbying money seemed to good to pass up. It's shitty that the world has to deal with a fascist wanna-be dictator because of these kinds of stupid situations and decisions.

  • Well hopefully it continues and this incident doesn't make the city reverse it. Thanks for the added context.

  • If you live in a house put the stuff in the basement.

  • Is this a new measure for Portland? I'm guessing people didn't know about it? The link doesn't really give details.

  • Me too. She's like a Bernie 2.0. She deserves a lot of respect for standing up for what's right.

  • I feel bad for AOC. She has to work with people daily that actively and vocally wish her harm and who have a rabid cult as followers. She honestly has a lot of guts to do what she does and say what she says. She is one of the few in Congress who actually deserve to be there.

  • These weren't anti-Semitic attacks, they were anti-Zionist protests. Even Jewish groups in Amstersam spoke up and said what the Israelis did was wrong.

  • The problem with it is that it was more or less the same thing Biden said and it's been abundantly clear Biden does not care for a ceasefire. The Arabs wanted more than that. They wanted her to admit that what Israel was doing in Gaza and Lebanon was wrong. They wanted her to say that she would take a firmer stance than Biden would on Israel. They didnt want her to say that she supports Israels right to defend itself, or for Tim Walz to say he supports Israels right to expand its borders, or even to campaign with Liz Cheney. The icing on the cake was Bill Clintons very stupid attempt to justify Israels killing of civilians a day or two before the election. What she said clearly wasn't enough and she repeatedly ignored them as well as the DNC actively trying to silence them.

    I believe she did end up taking a slightly firmer stance a few days before the election, which is likely due to her not polling so well. I'm not sure if your quote is from that time or from before. But I think a lot of Arabs saw it as "too little, too late" kind of thing.

  • She didn't have to condemn him, she could have just said "I feel we should be doing more and take a firmer stance saying that genocide is not ok". Something as simple as that would have rallied a lot of the Arabs to her side.

  • It means Israel is using the current conflict in Gaza to expand into another Palestinian territory, the West Bank. They are already illegally occupying it. This is their move to "legitimize" the occupation.

  • You know it's bad when Saudi Arabia is the calming force in the region and pulling out of diplomatic relations with Israel while also renewing relations with Iran.

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  • This is going to get removed. You might want to post this to the political discussion community.