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  • Speiser0@feddit.orgtoEurope@feddit.org•The EU says its age verification app is readyEnglish
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    15 小时前

    If you dont think people can get issues from watching things

    I do not not think this.

    it seems like you think the children that should choose if they should access a porn (or other adult content) site.

    Yes. The website should have a warning about its content (one could also make a law that it has to put more information there, about the risks and whatnot. we have this for other things). If the child is old enough to find such content and be curious, they’re probably mature enough to make their own decision.

    They will of cause continue to watch.

    If it’s that bad that it hurts them immediately, they won’t. And otherwise, it’s still not like they’d get addicted, and so I do not think a short exposure would have negative enough effects to strictly enforce age verification.

    Just like they would eat doughnuts as a meal all the time if they had the choice.

    Children are allowed to buy food (here in germany). They just need the money and access to a store.

  • Speiser0@feddit.orgtoEurope@feddit.org•The EU says its age verification app is readyEnglish
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    2 天前

    Of course it only stops children that want to be stopped, aka it protects them from stuff they want to be protected from.

    See also my last sentence:

    It weights more than protecting children from the consequences of their own free decisions in this case, imo.

    Of course, you can disagree here. The fundamental question is, do we want to let the subject decide by itself, or do - as the lawmaker - the decision for all subjects.

    For drinking alcohol I’d prefer latter, because:

    1. Young humans are less resistant against the bad effects of alcohol than adult ones. (==> Makes sense to restrict only a part of the population.)
    2. It can be addicting. (==> Hard to make own decision.)
    3. There can be peer pressure to take drugs. (==> Hard to make own decision.)
    4. The damages would be expensive for the health care system. (==> Negative effects for all of us, not just the individual.)

    For gore and porn I don’t see such points.

  • Speiser0@feddit.orgtoEurope@feddit.org•The EU says its age verification app is readyEnglish
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    3 天前

    “Online platforms can easily rely on our age verification app so there are no more excuses. We will have zero tolerance for companies that do not respect our children’s rights.”

    Not being able to access a website is not a right. Being able to browse the web without being exposed to disturbing material without consent can be seen as a right, but it doesn’t require age verification beyond a simple “are you over 18 years old?”.

    Being forced to provide an image of yourself or your ID to a website that you can’t trust if you want to access a website or service, if there’s also the option to do it with a zero-knowledge proof, could maybe be seen as a violation of one’s privacy rights (non-functionally-necessary data must be opt-in, AFAIK). But these rights are not limited to children, and it doesn’t apply to under-age them as they won’t be able to access the service anyways.

    Zero-knowledge proofs are cool, the german id card has such a feature, afaik. It just certifies that the user is >18 years old, and doesn’t leak the actual age, your name, or other identifiable information, afaik. (I’ve never used it.) I can’t judge what they implemented, or if one can trust that they implement what they specify, or what metadata might be involved.

    Being able to access the 18+ side of the web without having to worry about privacy is an important right. It weights more than protecting children from the consequences of their own free decisions in this case, imo.