The floor is much much lower than this. After the CCA was introduced and the villain had to be caught by the end of every issue, artists just starting making up the most off the wall shit to have someone for the hero to beat up and toss in jail.
As if to put an even finer point on it. I just watched blackkklansman today and they really hammered home that that bullshit is not in the past, it is the present reality we live in. Opening lemmy to see the exact shit the white supremacists in the movie spewed is almost poetic in a fucked up way.
I think it just further serves to whitewash Saudi Arabia. "Look, we're so progressive we let a woman on stage! (but a man better have fucking brought her there)"
Yeah I misspoke when I said no state, but I wasn't gonna put it in my reply to them because... Well you see how hard it is to get tankies to focus on a single line of thought.
The followup is the pointing out that China and Russia therefore are not antifascist.
Which is utterly irrelevant to what we were actually talking about.
Yes, correct. It was specifically a "trap" laid for you, not a contribution to the discussion of the founding fathers. That's what I'm trying to explain to you but you're determined to debate-bro literally everything, including my explanation of what happened.
I'm going to genuinely try here. They were never trying to actually argue the founding fathers were antifa.
They threw out two possibilities.
A colonial Empire can be considered antifa as long as it fight fascists, even if it does foced labor.
Only anarchists can be antifa, "welcome to the right side of socialism. "
You ignored the last bit, signaling their actual stance, and decided to trash the first possibility as stupid, excluding any state from the definition of antifascist. The followup is the pointing out that China and Russia therefore are not antifascist. You tried to handwave it but then got pushed into defending the American prison system because it's better than chattel slavery. It's not an incorrect stance; the systems in China, Russia, US all suck but they're better than they used to be. I think that's essentially where wyvern was trying to end up.
Summed up: if you don't believe China and Russia were/are antifascist simply because they oppose the US, you both agree.
Replying to you cause I'm not feeling tankies in my notifications today, but holy shit.
Like I said, I’m fine not calling them antifa.
The fact that you even suggested it is insanity.
Not recognizing the clear bait for "China isn't antifascist" and biting hard on it. It wasn't even subtle with the forced labor comment but they teed themself up anyway, and still didn't get it afterwards.
I'm endlessly amused and baffled by tankies' inability to actually understand what they're reading.
Definitely a hippo. It has been revealed to me.
It's the custom version of the teapot that planet peterson uses. Generic edgy atheist YouTube debate bro but he's pretty funny.