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  • It's (almost) funny how they think they're here taking some sort of brave stand against oppression, when in reality all they're doing is telling the rest of us that they don't see women as people. ¯(ツ)_/¯

  • In my experience, it is better to silently do good from the background without recognition than to proudly stand in front where people can try to bait you into a mistake, or misrepresent your good deeds.

    Security personnel should have an attitude of service, not of leadership.

    This is how it should be, unfortunately you're in the minority, and those who refuse to acknowledge that a revolution/community/society depends on all its members working together for the benefit of everyone, rather than a hero-focused action movie led by a single all-powerful "leader", out number you by quite a bit.

    Which is incredibly ironic in this specific community considering how the most basic idea of anarchism is to abolish hierarchy, yet all these men want to do is secure and maintain their position at the top of one.

    ETA: this is all why it's vital to fight all oppressive systems and view how they intersect (aka intersectionality), not just capitalism, and why class reductionism is so counterproductive and even dangerous for the marginalised members of the community/society at large.

  • You're missing the point - they are self reporting, even though they don't mean to. As you can see happening here - simply asking the question is enough for the worst types to weed themselves out by instantly getting defensive and prioritising their own feelings (which are at most of mild discomfort, but to them feel like violent oppression because they're used to always being centred and catered for) over the safety and equity of everyone in the group.

    The ones who pass this most superficial questioning without throwing a complete tantrum are automatically much more likely to fit the task at hand, and even if they aren't, at least they've proven to be capable of facing the most mild and indirect kind of criticism that exists, making them significantly more likely to be open to learning and improving.

  • The almost instant collapse in to a heap of whiny "victim of oppression" (seriously? Seriously?! Being asked to do some kitchen work and read a book so that you can be better is being "policed"? Do they even hear themselves?! 🤣 Of course they don't want anyone asking how many women trust them, these displays confirm there would be none) would be hilarious if it wasn't instantly also so fucking draining..

    The more clear it is we see through them, the more oppressed they seem to become 😂

  • Well, as Lewis's Law goes - the comments on any article about feminism justify the existence of feminism. Never fails.

    Honestly, it's pretty fucking scary to see the lengths some men will go to to defend what they see as their god given right to benefit from and uphold oppressive structures.

  • I'm glad someone got the reference lol

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  • Strange sort of question to go around asking people

    Not if you're prioritising the safety of women ¯(ツ)_/¯

  • “Internal security” would be along the lines of an ad hoc police enforcing rules or behaviors of participants, as opposed to defending participants from external aggression.

    Oh yeah, no, we don't want that..

    As for the rest, I appreciate it but there's no need really, just trying my best with the few resources I have, and definitely not always engaging lmao, but I do appreciate being able to at least have these conversations with some people lol so thank you, too. 😊

  • I'm not sure what internal security means, the kind of security I'm thinking about is communal - the people tasked with keeping the group safe, be it during direct action, a stay in a safe house, living daily life in a squat or other community on the outskirts of society, all of it, and in my mind they are armed with firearms to oppose outside threats like cops and out of uniform fascists.

    the most serious thing they should have is the aforementioned pepper spray and baton, along with a very loud whistle

    This falls under self defence in my eyes, which is why I made the differentiation in the first reply, but now I think we've both clarified, and I agree were generally on the same page - those means (pepper spray, baton, whistle), along with a buddy system to keep each other in check seems perfectly reasonable and would be less restrictive as to who could safely be tasked with the job.

    Still something we always should be keeping in mind, who we give power to, and who we might be taking power away from by doing so.

  • Imagine framing prioritising and looking out for the safety of the already marginalised members of your group as a "purity test" bogeyman to justify rejecting learning about intersectionality, in an anarchist community.

    Yeah, you definitely shouldn't be allowed do security, jfc

    Also, talk about edgelord... Project much? lmfao

    E: the sheer audacity to invoke Rojova of all groups to make your point against intersectionality goes to show just how motherfucking and wilfully ignorant you truly are lmmfao, but you keep opposing educating yourself, it seems to be working out really well for you.. 🙄

  • I think the key point for me is that the needs and safety of the more marginalised people in a group should always be prioritised over anything else, which is not the same as expecting all risk to be eliminated, but otherwise we're just maintaining harmful structures, in which case, what's the point?

  • If you'd made this comment in a vacuum, I'd generally agree, but as it relates to this post, I don't.

    To some degree, everyone should have a mind to physical defense,

    For starters, we're talking about security, not self defence. So while yes, everyone who is able should learn some degree of self defence, not everyone can, or should not only be armed, but be given the power over others that comes with being armed.

    Rotate individuals

    A rotation doesn't solve the problem of violent and or power hungry misogynists (or racists, or queerphobes or so on, all of which exist on the left just like they do everywhere else in society) having a weapon and the power that comes with it.

    Not everyone should be given a weapon, it's as simple as that, and putting other members of the group at risk for the sake of superficial inclusion (read: soothing the fragile egos of power hungry people who refuse to even acknowledge their privilege, let alone check it) is not the solution.

  • I’d much prefer to defend our trans community, but...

    Jfc...

    Says the person who has clearly never even tried listening to trans people, but is more than happy to believe every piece of misinformation they hear about us then demand we labour for them to disprove it to their satisfaction, over the people they claim they wold actually "prefer" to defend, but aren't...

  • Your misogyny isn't some enlightened understanding.

  • Cis women are not the biggest fucking victims of transphobia, jfc...

  • I don’t think the left, even now, has realized what liberalism truly is

    Lmfao, new to leftist spaces are you? 😂

  • Imagine turning "here, read this book" in to a "re-education" bogeyman to justify rejecting learning about intersectionality, in an anarchist community.

    You definitely shouldn't be allowed to work security.

    And thus, the mere suggestion has done its job.

  • No, you don't get to suddenly now distance yourself and those you serve, the threshold was crossed a long long time ago, war has always been a racket, those making and selling weapons have always been complicit in war crimes, hell, massively responsible for them since they don't just make and sell, and advertise and test (hint: on oppressed populations) (E: and how could I forget - lobby bribe politicians and other policy makers), but most importantly profit from war. Fuck this noise.