Hamas is not a legitimate government and their atrocities are neither the fault nor the responsibility of the civilian population.
They are the government, and they have been consistently attacking Israel for 16 years, culminating in "Israel's 9/11"
Also, Hamas may want genocide, but they don’t have the power to carry it out.
Imagine Israel without the Iron Dome you don't want to give them money for.
So 6.8 million people have to suffer and die for it?
Suffering happens in war. That's why war is bad. 6.8 million people won't die though. There will be 6.77 million Palestinians in Gaza after this war, ideally closer to a 2 state solution than if Hamas was still around.
Where would they have gotten water for the cement or fuel for the machines?
Turns out the restrictions only applied because Hamas wants genocide. Money can, in fact, be exchanged for goods and services, and was for years prior to Hamas.
And they’re actively at war with Hamas, not the entire population.
They are at war with the government of Gaza, correct.
Hamas didn't build any infrastructure with Iran's money. They built bombs. Israel voluntarily provided power to Gaza, but is under no compulsion to provide power to an enemy they're actively at war with.
Yeah, because everyone knows that having 1/12 of the knesset be Arabs means that there’s not systemic inequality and oppression of Arabs and other minority groups
It's proportionate to their population.
About 6.8 million Jewish Israelis and 6.8 million Palestinians live today between the Mediterranean Sea and Jordan River, an area encompassing Israel and the Occupied Palestinian Territory
This article is about the Palestinian territory, a different country than Israel.
Lol they literally acknowledge it.
The intensity of that discrimination varies according to different rules established by the Israeli government in Israel, on the one hand, and different parts of the OPT,
Palestinians, Muslims and Arabs living in Israel and Israel-occupied and/or -controlled Palestine are treated as, at best, second class citizens
You went to all the effort to cite Tutu and yet provide no evidence for this, because they're not, and they literally have representation in Israel's government.
Even if the pro-IDF propaganda piece you linked to had successfully demonstrated that, yes it would still be whataboutism since what Americans believe has no bearing on whether the Israeli government should be allowed to systematically slaughter and demolish their way through Palestinians, including children, at a rate completely unheard of anywhere in the world in recent years.
You do understand that you are literally expressing a thing that some Americans believe, yes? Like, you get that your position is an opinion, right?
It's not whataboutism to demonstrate that an election-significant number of Democrats believe Hamas bullshit over reality, and that the number of people who believe that is enough to change Dem support from strong majority agreement with the President to disagreement.
It's also not whataboutism to point out that nearly a third of people polled have generally no opinion on such basic things as "did the Holocaust happen" or "was the Hamas terror attack a big deal" or "does Hamas target civilians."
War does indeed suck and you're allowed to not like it and even use your irresponsibly inflammatory language, but it's absurd to suggest these comments are whataboutism.
I understand that Gazans made a mistake in 2007, the same way Gazans knew they made a mistake once Hamas canceled elections forever and started torturing dissidents.
There's no reason for people today to copy that mistake by supporting Hamas now.
Because I’m not liking having an AR-15 leaning on my desk, and a 12-gauge on my nightstand, for when the local Brown Shirts decide I’m “vermin” and they need to raid my house “for my own good”. Anyone think that’s “radical” or “paranoid”? Got steep yourself in some WWII history lessons.
Anyone in the 10% that thinks hostages or sexual assault is a lie, or that Jews overplay the fucking Holocaust, are not "rightful" and their concerns do not come from empathy, because they lack empathy as a concept.
Stay angry about it forever lol