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  • Thanks for your reply, nice and clearly described for my amateur physicist brain to follow! ;p I'll reply in full when I'm less tired, but intrigued by your reply about time! In summary I think of it as a way of describing how something changes, rather than time actually existing. I.e. it's relative to the energy the object has...so is a way of describing how much energy it has. I see you talk about black holes in a reply to someone else and my first thought is - the idea that time slows as your get closer (or is that a popular misconception?) relative to my thinking is that actually the particles are loosing energy, not time actually changing - and therefore would any particles actually catch up with each other as you describe? Let alone be observable to be moving.

    And thinking about your last paragraph - are you not simply describing that object A which entered the black hole before object B, is simply is closer to the centre than B at any given 'time' which err doesn't exist. And neither does space come to think of it. Space is the nothingness between something, so also just a way of describing how something changes or interacts with something else. E.g. 2 particles exert a force on each other and move closer together through an exchange of energy - space is simply part of a description of how much of the interaction has been completed, similar to time, hence why they're thought of together and also as one and the same.

    The distance thing is therefore how much force, what force and how strongly a force is being exerted rather than a physical thing.

    Which (now a bit of side thought I had half an hour ago!) makes me think that black holes have no centre and the singularity is rather like the surface of a sphere, at which point all matter has no energy left to move - or perhaps its better to describe it that all matter's energy is now potential energy due to the immense forces at work, a bit like a compressed spring.

    Erm ok so I replied a lot in the end! I hope it makes some sense, I could probably ramble on some more but I'd better stop fir now! though I do realise there may be some concepts that I'm ignorant of that could destroy my thinking, so feel free to deconstruct!

  • I love how everyone goes "it wasn't chiselled!" and my first thought is, someone probably wrote this for them/recorded it for the court (or ancient equivalent) is the actual issue with the post!

  • Please explain entanglement and how two particles can be inexplicably connected despite being gajillions of light years apart! Bonus question, do you believe time exists?

  • Exactly! Which was my original point that this 'power thing' is about using/tied to abusive/instluting behaviour rather than something separate.

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  • Oh dear lord that made me laugh rather a lot! This is my life now!

  • I did chuckle inside when I read the post, so maybe.

    Though I think he's been laughing for some time now so he could be hysterical with how things have panned out.

  • Nailed on. And that quote, spread it far and wide.

  • They'll never let you diwn either...

  • Run for Something sounds good. We have a fairly healthy number of independent politicians in the UK I think but something like that can only help improve peoples involvement in local snd national government.

    Assuming you're from the US by sharing that, I hope you have more than luck to help over there!

  • Oh I'm well aware that the Con govmnt has been an appalling dismantling of our country, but Labour are so far appearing to largely be following suit. Remember the Tory repetition about the need for austerity? It just feels like a repeat of that, to put it very breifly. I know 14 years can't be fixed overnight, but shitting on the poor and needy, who have been suffering the most already is just grotesque. There's plenty of condemnation by journalists and MPs alike for this as well as some calls to tax the rich instead.

    I've never voted for either so I'm looking at what they do through neutral(ish!) eyes and I don't see politics so much an ever increasing pandering to the corporate economy (over decades).

    I can't say I'm too knowledgable about Aus politics, but got glimpses of how bad your last govmnt was through the Guardian. Hope you have a better time than us with a new set of faces!

  • No, the discussion was not about whether different words were of equal or differing offensiveness. My discussion is about what saying 'it's a power thing' actually means and how it relates to abusive behaviour.

  • Meanwhile, here in the Uk our government is making sure we won't have enough money to buy more than two days of food at a time.

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  • I still remember Domesday, it only happened the once before 'they' covered it up. I'll never forget it, so many questions.

    1. One thing I agree with you on is that it isn't necessarily always abuse, however the original post is about that group of friend's chat, which I believe is abusive in nature from what has been shared (and hence why so many people have disowned them) and which you turned into (and are still rambling on about) some political somethingor another..
    2. Again, this has nothing to do with politics.
    3. You know nothing about my political beliefs so are shouting into thin air. (I'm not even from the US so can't even 'be' a Dem! Oh boy.)
    4. This has nothing to do with politics, did I say that already?!
  • What have far left (or far right, or even centrist) politics got to do with it? This is about what's socially acceptable. Yes that feeds into politics and left/right/centre opinions, but I'm not discussing politics (nor was the person you replied to). Which ties in with my first comment that you're combining politics with social issues erroneously.

    Ultimately abuse is, abuse, is abuse, no matter how you dress it up.

  • So, if you were to replace 'cocksucker' with 'towelhead', slut, Yid, or Nig*** would that still just be a power thing?

    Not that it actually makes a difference. This 'power thing' you refer to is controlling abuse for self interest. Introducing a predudice is just a way of trying to justify and/or hide the abuse.

  • I think you're getting caught up in the state being abusive and controlling to it's citizens (as Dump is doing now) and society self-regulating itself for it's own benefit (something that happens in all social groups) as being one and the same. Just because someone calls out another person's bad behaviour, that does not equate to supporting a dictatorial, or similarly controlling, leadership.

  • https://youtu.be/1bqMY82xzWo Reminds me of this, some of the discussions relate to the fear of choices and how you think you appear in social situations.

    "The paradox of choice"

    Sorry, don't know how to do a YT avoiding link, hopefully a bot will add options!

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  • How would it carry the load?