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  • Thanks for the update!

  • Not challenging you, but do you have evidence that's easy for you to get to? I am considering their mail service. Thanks!

  • Not really. Their editorial board and page are 100% on board with him.

    However, the WSJ still does actual reporting, and it's usually fairly good/accurate. Just don't read the editorials, ever.

  • Ok sorry I will be that guy.

    At the outset, let me say renewables are the end goal and the best outcome.

    That said there are a number of problems with this approach. This chart doesn't define what 40% it's talking about. Which is actually impossible because metrics in shipping are considered different for different types of ships and trade. I assume this map/post/thing about deadweight tons (DWT), which is the metric you judge liquid and sold bulk goods. For containers it's TEU (twenty foot equivalent units), for offshore vessels it is often but not always bollard pull, for cruise ships its passenger to crew ratio, etc.

    Also the original poster may be referring to total tonnage by metric X (dwt, displacement, raw number of ships) or some other unknown metric)

    But let's assume this is a good faith argument. In terms of bulk commodities, it is probably true that nearly half the fleet by deadweight is shipping coal, crude, refined products, LNG/LPG. But that is an effect of the size of ships one uses to transport such commodities - they are always very big ships even though there are far more many smaller ships in terms of raw numbers.

    And in any case the problem is demand. If people want cheap shit from China and cheap oil from the Gulf, someone is going to ship it. Renewables are the way forward, but if you want to transport a lot of stuff or a lot of people that you cannot transport by rail, planes and ships are the answer. No other source has the energy density of petroleum to ship stuff.

    Somewhat ironically, per ton-mile (i.e., how much stuff you can carry per mile), shipping is by FAR the most efficient way in terms of energy consumed. The pollution from ships is horrible, even changing certain weather patterns in the N Pacific, but as long as we have the demand, it will exist.

  • Guy doing marine fuel enters the chat.

  • Pattern Recognition by William Gibson.

  • Pattern Recognition by William Gibson.

  • Pattern Recognition by William Gibson.

  • (but actually I do, read Pattern Recognition by William Gibson, you will not be disappointed)

  • Boy howdy, do I have a book suggestion for you....

    Edit: I'm surprised how many people are not familiar with Pattern Recognition by William Gibson. Not as ground breaking as Neuromancer but his biggest commercial/critical success.

  • Found the OTO member pretending to be the opposite.

  • Now, get off his lawn!

  • The 1960s has entered the chat.

  • We are all still cool with Proton though, right? That was where I was planning on heading.

  • If I'm not mistaken, butter chicken is indigenous but tikka masala is the BIR style dish.

  • Looks at Brent over the last 24 months, looks at massive oil tankers offshore everywhere with unsold crude.

    Yep, 'bout that time.

  • I'm in this picture, and I don't like it.

  • Not in NL. If you have any high demand skill, you can be eligible for the 30% ruling.

  • I met the man when I was about 16 or 17. Oh, he's in there, no doubt.