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  • First two I simply dont see from /0 staff nor the vast majority of the users you’re delusional on both points.

    Furthermore, despite aggressively (and rightly) removing other forms of genocide denial in that comm, both Holodomor and Uyghur Genocide denial are left up in that thread, despite the participation of multiple admins and the reporting of the material.

    In addition to that, both Uyghur genocide denial and Holodomor denial in that same thread are upvoted by the Dbzer0 community.

    How many dbzer0 users would you like me to cite engaging in Uyghur genocide denial or Holodomor denial before you'll concede that it might be a problem? Legitimate question, I know of a significant number, so I may be able to convince you if you're legitimately just skeptical.

    On the third neo liberal “democracy” isnt real and is largely a vessel for control by the capitalist oligarchic class, I do not think ML is the solution to that however.

    Rather than being a reference to modern democratic states, the position is in relevance to the Spartacist Uprising, which proposed, in response to Germany's defeat in WW1 and subsequent incoming elections which the KPD was not barred from running in, and which were largely spearheaded by the then-much-more-left-wing-than-the-modern-day SPD, to attempt a coup explicitly along Bolshevik lines, which had, the previous year, dissolved a democratically elected revolutionary government in Russia.

    DB0 believes that this vanguardist approach is true anarchist praxis, praising ML imitators as 'libertarian socialists'.

  • Considering trying out for the Olympics with that amount of mental gymnastics?

    I'm sorry, what do you regard Uyghur genocide denial, Holodomor denial, and the support of Vanguard parties overthrowing democracy as?

    Is that what anarchism is to you?

  • "They walked it back after being called out with a half-assed 'Well, I think it meets the definition, but the West is worse so it doesn't matter!' after spreading common fuckwit fascist talking points and denying genocide, whilst simultaneously praising denialism of that same genocide and allowing genocide denial in comms they moderate, clearly they didn't mean it"

    Yes, clearly. /s

  • banning pug and goat was our community disassociating itself from someone who doesn’t wish us well and doesn’t want to be a part of us anyway.

    When was I banned?

    I don't wish fascists or their apologists well, nor do I make a habit of participating in their comms. Sorry that you seem to think otherwise.

  • db0 instance has never denied the Uyghur genocide, but people there are painting their moderation as a villain for no reason.

  • Someone really needs to touch grass :D

    Went outside and touched grass as per usual; still have not become an Uyghur genocide denier, nor have I decided to allow Holodomor genocide denial, nor have I defended Vanguardist parties suppressing democracy whilst claiming to be an anarchist.

    I guess it's just you.

  • Thanks! the only correction I have is that I’m actually an anarchist, I feel like a broken record sometimes having to explain that.

    It might be the constant defence of the PRC, the repeating of Russian propaganda on Ukraine, and simping for an instance that literally removes posts which point out genocide by fascist polities which are painted red, which cause people to correct identify you elsewise.

  • Ironic that they immediately started trying to flip the script with accusations of ‘tankie bar’

    It was pointed out that in that very fucking thread there was Holodomor and Uyghur genocide denial, which would make, by the same argument as the 'Nazi bar' accusations being leveled, DB0 a tankie bar.

  • And despite us peacably coexisting with him for years, suddenly we’re all “tankies” just because we called out his toxic bullying towards one of our users.

    The 'bullying' that consisted of downvoting comments I disagreed with? As admitted even by the 'bullied'?

    And despite us peacably coexisting with him for years, suddenly we’re all “tankies” just because we called out his toxic bullying towards one of our users.

    I didn't call you a tankie until you started denying Uyghur genocide and denying sexual assault, fascist. Which was long after the ban - which I regarded as petty and annoying, but not indicative of any deeper fascist leaning.

    The Chinese aren’t dropping grenades from drones onto groups of innocent Uyghur civilians, shooting teenage boys in their genitals, or bombing their hospitals.

    Oh cool, it's much better to do it with police instead of drones, and beating teenage boys to death in interrogation instead of shooting them. Whew! Close one!

    It’s more like an authoritarian version of cultural assimilation. And no PugJesus, that doesn’t mean I’m denying or even minimizing what’s happening there.

    "It's just like an authoritarian version of cultural assimilation. I'm not minimizing the Uyghur genocide!"

    You really have no self-awareness, huh.

    That’s the point I was making about Gaza. Yet repeatedly, whenever the Democratic party’s material support for the genocide in Gaza is brought up, all the turbolibs can say is “what about the Uyghurs?” as though that’s some sort of gotcha

    Curious considering that you made those comments in a thread where you were the one who brought up Gaza, unprompted. But I'm sure calling it the Uyghur "Genocide" and saying it was overblown was just you reacting really strongly to nonexistent Gaza comparisons in the thread!

    Fucking astounding projection for your fascist whataboutism.

  • DB0 used to remove Uyghur genocide denial and Holodomor denial. It's sad that now they regard that as permitted. Now they even defend vanguard parties overthrowing democratic elections.

  • Maybe I can weigh in here as a neutralish third party observer. I like goat and Pug, but I think they are taking this too seriously and being a bit too terminally online. I also like db0, but I think the accusations of them protecting tankies is credible. I think the specific accusations against Davel and uruffled are also credible, though for slightly different reasons I won’t go into here. Everyone knows tankies gonna tank.

    Goat has been overreacting by banning dbzer0 users as a whole.

    While I'm obviously biased, I don't think I've been overreacting simply by calling out literal fucking genocide denial.

  • Is it necessary to rage like an agressive drunk psyco? I do appreciate the links to the sources, but behave like a civilized being.

    If there's one thing I've learned over two decades of arguing with people over matters like disinformation and genocide, it's that gentle phrasing leads people to walk away with "Ah, a nice little political disagreement! Agree to disagree!"

    Spreading disinformation is not something that is minor, and it should not be treated as such. Even if done without malice - and I don't think you're doing it maliciously - treating it as a 'mere' disagreement encourages people to continue repeating it. Treating is as a serious offense - which it is - forces either defense of the disinformation or discarding spreading it.

  • Using a graph to imply a drop by 80% when the drop is less than 35% is immensely misleading. Sorry that you see a graph and immediately assume whatever is implied is correct.

  • Already provided sources, fascist.

  • Please, be more accurate with your statements. China is committing genocide at home (which is terrible) and supplying components, which applications include i.e. war drones for Ukraine war, in other words fuelling the war.

    On the other hand the west is supplying plain ready to use weapons, ammunition and war vehicle parts. Not only that, but also the crucial military intel necessary to hit the targets.

    What the ever-loving fuck do you think drones are

    Not only that, but also the crucial military intel necessary to hit the targets.

    And you think Chinese intelligence isn't involved in the war in Ukraine? Both espionage and cyberattacks from suspected PRC actors are on the fucking record, and it's not like Chinese state media is going to be doing any exposes before the CPC wants to admit it.

    Although one can argue the outcome will be the same, results show a much higher civilian casualty percentage of 83% in the Gaza war.

    Yes, because Palestine's military (or paramilitaries) is no longer in any state to resist.

    There is a substantial difference in the battlefield between fuelling, arming and committing.

    Oh goodness, it would be really terrible if China was supplying capital, arms, and personnel.

  • Fuck off, fascist.

  • From 16.70 in 1990 to 11.00 in 2020 in the US. But cute attempt at misrepresentation with the graph.

  • If “we” is the UN (I dont consider myself part of them), which doesn’t even report on Palestine’s birth rates since the 90s because it doesnt recognize it as a state. Do you have any non-UN based sources? They are obviously western biased.

    Like, there’s a lot of stuff happening why is this only a worry in China? America is experiencing a huge birth rate decline as well.

    Jesus fucking Christ.

  • So you think politicians actually want better educated voters but don’t have patience for it?

    I think the voters don't have the patience for it.

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