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  • No.

    Hell no.

    That’s so bad.

    For one thing this was clearly written by a human and fairly decently so, as these things go. Assuming you want humans to do journalism instead of shitty corpos outsourcing it all to chatbots, it may help to engage with it as intended every now and then.

    For another thing, never assume anything you see on social media exists at all. It probably doesn’t. At best it’s a slice of it selected to get a rise out of you in one way or another. Yes, including here. Algorithms didn’t come up with the notion that people react more to stuff that makes them angry. I’m not saying to touch grass, but… like, touch some astroturf at least. Find a human who has touched grass once and ask them about it. Don’t live your life mediated by social media posts, what the hell.

    And if you’re going to inhabit a semiotic ecosystem that exists primarily in the dregs of cyberdystopia at the very least put the work in of either understanding what’s being thrown at you via the firehose of constant worldwide anger or… you know, not reacting to it. You really have no obligation to add to this crap.

    To be clear, I was going “we suck as a species” before I realized you’re saying if someone doesn’t plagiarize or summarize the content for you then you’re not gonna read it but will still react to the version of it that pops into your head. I wasn’t even considering that level of suck to be on purpose, let alone self-righteous.

    I’m gonna go not be on the Internet for a second.



  • It is absolutely insane the amount of computing you can buy these days for 300 bucks in the form factor of half a packet of cigarrettes. Screw jetpacks, man, that’s some future tech.

    I’m just frustrated with the framing here. If they think they want to go after premium clients with tons of disposable income they should be less ashamed of being overpriced and go for broke. Look at boutique PC handheld manufacturers. They’re making computers to order for 2000+ bucks now with zero shame and doing alright.

    Oh, you want to cram a AI MAX+ 395 in a shell that makes no sense for a AI-focused productivity APU and use it to play AAA games poorly? We got you, bro. It’ll be 2.5 grand and we’ll get back to you in a year or so. Here’s our Indiegogo.

    Samsung is out there selling foldables in that price range that will all be broken in two years and everyone is cool with it. Apple and Samsung both make dumbed-down phones just to make them look thin and charge premium money for them. Embrace the consumerism, man.




  • I swear, the online AI haters think AI is so much cooler than I do.

    I get crap for being on the fence about it or for saying it’s useful for some stuff, on interesting on principle. They’re out there being exactly as bullish about its capabilities as the shills who invested retirement money in Open AI and are terrified it’ll all blow away.


  • That is explicitly not what I’m saying.

    Can you bundle people consistently based on what age they had relative to specific events in history and the shared culture that results from it? Sure.

    I mean, I don’t know how much clearer that can be about not saying what you say I’m saying. Yes, you can bundle people consistently on how old they were during the dotcom bubble or 9/11 or whatever else. That’s the same thing you’re saying. I mean, very clearly what you’re saying.

    For the record, that doesn’t mean everybody will react to those events the same way. 9/11 didn’t matter as much in some places of the world as it did in the US or in the countries unlucky enough to be on the reciving end of whatever the hell the US was doing immediately after.

    But insofar people of a certain age experience history and culture together, it’s a global-enough situation to tag the people that lived that period together. Under no circumstance are Polish or Romanian people who were young adults in the 80s and 90s “Gen X”, though. That makes zero sense relative to the reference Gen X is going for. They weren’t the aimless drones of capitalism seeking meaning in a lifelong peacetime, they were in “holy shit, stuff is going down” revolutionary mode in a way the US Gen Xers weren’t even in living memory of at all. That’s not Gen X. That’s the opposite of Gen X.


  • OK, but… you just said the same thing I said.

    To reiterate:

    Can you bundle people consistently based on what age they had relative to specific events in history and the shared culture that results from it? Sure.

    Is the experience of each of those bundles of people homogeneous worldwide or even in any arbitrary slice of “Western world” you want to pick? Absolutely not.

    Or, to go back to the very first post:

    I’m annoyed by this on principle and across the board, but I do want to point out that “Greatest Generation” all the way to “Baby Boomers” makes zero sense in most of the planet. You can sooooort of get away with Millenials to Alpha because the Internet is a bad idea, and Gen X at least applies to probably most of Europe as well as the US and Canada, although it’s still weird across the board.

    But everything before that? Super specifically US-only.

    So… is there a point you’re making in addition to mine? Because you sound like you disagree, but what you wrote doesn’t seem to disagree.


  • Is it? I mean, to start with the obvious, not every Western country was on the same side of WW2, and not all of them had the fighting happen in their territory, which means not all of them were levelled. And not all of them were Marshall planned after. And of course not all of them were on the same bloc during the Cold War. Gonna guess the Polish have a slightly different recollection of the 70s and 80s. Which then means for a whole bunch of post-soviet countries the 90s played out very differently, too. And of course the 90s probably had a slightly different flavour if you were in or around former Yugoslavia. And that’s Europe, don’t get me started on South America, which is fairly Western, last I checked. I don’t even need to start thinking about Africa or Asia.

    Post-9/11, maaaybe. Before? You’re glossing over so much stuff it’s hard to even conceptualize it.

    Can you bundle people consistently based on what age they had relative to specific events in history and the shared culture that results from it? Sure.

    Is the experience of each of those bundles of people homogeneous worldwide or even in any arbitrary slice of “Western world” you want to pick? Absolutely not.




  • Right. That’s my point, though. Depending on where you are in the world and how joined at the hip with the US you are culturally this particular set will start making sense at a different point. In some cases not at all.

    Where I am millenials are the first that definitely sync up. Up until GenX we are in a completely different set. I bet in other parts of the world even with how fully online we all are even then it doesn’t click.


  • See, I kinda see it the other way. Generational demarcations used to be cultural and thus geographically determined back when different places had different media. Now we all have the same garbage social media, so since the 2000s it makes sense that we’re all on the same boat made of crap and hate.

    For example, my parents had a moon landing, but it looked, sounded different and meant very different things. Also for example, I had no idea what Oregon Trail was or what it was about until the Internet told me it was a staple of US computer classes. If you think about it for a few seconds it may be no surprise that my equivalent was some combination of drawing dicks in LOGO, Defender of the Crown and Saboteur II.

    We have local names for people born in the late 70s to mid 90s, too. After that we just use the US-designed universal names, though.



  • Yeah, as people insist on new names for “the youths” that they can use to write derisive articles it becomes almost impossible to match any of these arbitrary things.

    By most metrics “Gen Z” is coming up on their thirties, but people still want to flag them as “the kids”, where the Gen A batch that’s still in school still aren’t the target, so you end up with this weird ongoing reclassification. It’s all kinda dumb. At the end of the day if you think about it anything since just pre-Millenials is all the same bundle of anxiety-ridden online natives that can’t afford a house. They’re all just at different stages of that process. The big cutoffs happened in the 00s with the one-two punch of the post 9/11 US imperialist nonsense and the big mortgage crisis. Everything after is just fallout.


  • That’s one of the places where it landed. And certainly the stupidest sounding one.

    I didn’t make up “Gen Y”, it was a thing you’d hear at the time, it just didn’t stick. Iliza Shlesinger has a comedy special called Elder Millennial, which is also a thing I’ve heard elsewhere. She was born in 83.

    It’s all a dumb mess, I guess is my point.




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    I’m annoyed by this on principle and across the board, but I do want to point out that “Greatest Generation” all the way to “Baby Boomers” makes zero sense in most of the planet. You can sooooort of get away with Millenials to Alpha because the Internet is a bad idea, and Gen X at least applies to probably most of Europe as well as the US and Canada, although it’s still weird across the board.

    But everything before that? Super specifically US-only.


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    You’re getting super stuck on that part, which comes after “never been in a fight in my life”. Feeling insecure about your masculinity when mouthing off to parents in public or something?

    For the record, nope. Turned around to face the guy, who immediately stopped shouting at the lady. I don’t think anybody noticed. Never done something like that before, I expect to never have to do it again.

    He was being a dick about it, though. So… there’s that.