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  • Libs still want to destroy it.

    As is natural, for neoliberal capitalists.

    They hate everything that's for the public good, instead of being run for a profit.

    Fingers crossed the latest breakup of the coalition is permanent and the power vacuum shifts us (and hopefully the Labor party) further to the left.

  • politicians from the majors should hang their heads in shame over this

    This implies that: 1. they have shame, and 2. they're not all profiting from the status quo.

    Preference other left-wing parties, I would suggest.

  • It seems to me they are saying that the community massively under-appreicates how much death and danger we accept from the use of cars.

    And that our cities are STILL being designed for cars, despite decades of evidence that it's a dumb idea (with some decent urban planning sprinkled in from time to time).

    Australia has massive car-brain.

    This death was assisted by that, because we don't design our cities properly.

    Cars kill. And people need to wake up to that, especially when they're behind the wheel, which many have no choice but to do because of the design of our cities.

    Edit: also this particular commenter (not the other stupid pro-gun idiots) does not seem to be advocating for guns.

    If I had my way, we'd restrict guns even more than the new laws have.

    Recreation is not a legitimate use for a gun.

  • The number of guns you need for recreation is zero. Get a different hobby ffs.

  • We should limit the number of guns for recreation to zero. It's honestly dumb it's allowed at all.

    There are legitimate uses for guns, "fun" is not one of them.

  • gun number limit is also a kneejerk reaction

    Please explain how limiting how many guns people can have isn't sensible.

    Honestly, why do we allow "recreation" as a legitimate reason at all? Like, sorry, but when a hobby endangers the community, then it shouldn't be allowed. People will mental gymnastic a reason why it's unfair to stop them enjoying their hobby, but I remain rather unconvinced.

    I'm not across the new laws, but the limiting the number of guns someone can legally own part just doesn't scream knee-jerk to me.

  • How is it promoting community cohesion for barring someone based on race?

    Seems like open-and-shut racial discrimination to me.

  • I'd argue it's even deeper than this. This is just naturally what happens under a privatised health system. Doctors charging whatever they like because there aren't enough public specialists and so the queue is long.

    I'd argue we need to end the rebate system, either you go be private and get absolutely zero from the government, and keep the laws in place that make it impossible for private health insurance to cover these visits too (I'm against any private health, but trying to make it more palatable of a change).

    Everyone else, should join the public system, which we should properly fund, and they can collectively bargain for better conditions like any other public servant.

    Keep wages and conditions competitive so we don't lose people to overseas too much.

    This subsidy system is always gonna have this stupid cat and mouse of rebates not keeping up with the market rates of what doctors are charging.

  • Yes to everything except the gun control.

    In what world does legitimate need for a gun include unlimited guns per owner? In what world does a hobby count as a legitimate use? (both things that lead the shooters to having the guns in the first place).

    Sorry gun hobbyists, get a new hobby. Like how is it a sane position that you can have a hobby that puts the community at risk. Do archery ffs. It's way cooler and you can't kill a bunch of people in rapid succession (I mean, unless you're Legolas)

    Collecting every element as a hobby could be done responsibly, but we don't allow that either, and for good reason. We, as a society, deem it an unacceptable risk.

    Unfortunately this tragedy will be co-opted for the other bad things you mentioned, but tightening our kinda loose gun laws is not one of them.

    Farmers, the military, specialised police and animal control need a certain amount of guns. The current laws do not achieve this.

  • I was taught in English class in high school that irony is an ambulance running people over, not just sarcasm

    This is a relief, there is hope yet haha

  • (not a Labor member, much further left) Sorry, but at least Labor has some semblance of party democracy. Hearing about the Greens from past members, it's a bloody top-down dictatorship where membership don't get to vote on policy at all (well, they can "recommend" but that's about it)

    I'd strongly argue that the reason many Labor Left members aren't members of the Greens is because the Greens are a feel good org that doesn't actually listen to the membership.

    Disappointingly, many Labor Left members seem open to the idea that capitalism is actively hostile to our well-being, but continue to support the party, even if it's pro-capitalism, and pro-neoliberalism (it is these days, anyway).

    I'll still preference the Greens over Labor for now, but they are not a serious alternative.

    Any party that isn't internally democratic is not a serious alternative.

    Coincidentally: https://victoriansocialists.org.au/node/238

  • I don't think I've ever heard sarcasm used when irony is appropriate. Because "ironically" seems to be taking over (for Americans, not in Australia)

    "That's so sarcastic" referring to irony isn't a thing. Or at least, I've neve heard it.

    "the use of words that are the opposite of what you mean" bad Cambridge, bad! That's sarcasm.

    Could be my cultural context, and my bias because I constantly hear Americans misusing 'ironic'.

    Don't use it differently without providing a replacement please and thank you!

    Wikipedia gets it right: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony "Irony is a juxtaposition of what, on the surface, appears to be the case with what is actually or expected to be the case"

  • My understanding, from how people use it here is that irony is a situation which is a contrast between the expected/intended and actual outcome.

    It's ironic when a fire station burns down

    This definition is truly upsetting: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/irony

    Americans, no. Bad Americans.

    This definition is correct (until we come up with a good substitute, FFS America): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irony

    Glad Wikipedia agrees with me on this one haha We'll at least the introductory definition.

    Edit: to answer your question. I dunno. I just think this form of "ironic" just didn't take off in Australia.

    Mostly because we already have words for what Americans use it for. And don't have words to replace irony.

    ¯(ツ)

  • Oh interesting, I hadn't noticed that!

  • Ahhhh, socialising the risk and privatising the profits, a tale as old as neoliberalism

  • The American use "ironically" is probably the only difference between our dialects that I'll stand firm on.

    My friends, we already have a use for the word, and it's not this!

    I'm all about linguistic innovation, but using "unironically" in place of "seriously" and "ironically" in place of "sarcastically"/”not seriously" is not happy times for me.

    Unless you give me a new word for irony.

    I quite like y'all, I use that all the time, not against Americanisms in general, just this one.

  • Labor Right is the biggest misnomer in Australian politics.

    It's also why Labor being referred to as "left wing" is a joke

  • I started writing out a massive rebuttal but realised I should source it to back myself up, and then writing it became a task I didn't have time for 😅

    I haven't forgotten about this, just shot myself in the foot.

    I'd have to look further into this particular sources but this seems pretty subjective.

    Which, I grant the phrase "life is pretty good" which I took issue with, also is.

    I just posit that there is a lot wrong in Australia that is getting worse, and there are a number of areas where Labor is tinkering, and not making large changes like they once did decades ago, and still could.

    As for a longer sourced comment, shall have to wait until I have time. Working overtime like crazy this week :/