Oh fun, just the cursed reality that Technofacists wanted.

I do wish he had instead years ago, handed off the project as he has lived long enough to become a villain. ROFL

I feel like it should be a bit stricter, as it is so easy for LLM generated code to hide errors and present the output as something that seems valid (when in fact there are a lot of pitfalls involved). LLMs and the chatbot features they possess often act in tandem to deskill the user of them, they become disconnected from their craft, gradually become more confident in the outputs of prompt slot machines. There is a political movement behind the push for the use and normalization of LLM use to cause a mass disenfranchisement event for skilled workers and creatives.

It’s just a very uncomfortable reality to face. Calling it “AI” feels incorrect in my opinion, it is just a prompt slot machine remixing the training data that humans either willingly or unwillingly (collected through scraping attacks) contributed to the model. Which can often produce very weird results. Just recently, Linus caused an issue by using an LLM to vibecode something and went on vacation dumping the problem in the laps of contributors. Mind you, this is a person who is supposed to know better but caused a massive problem. This is a scary time to be alive.

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I just don’t like the idea of making an accommodation for prompt slot machines, like at all. I will just stick with what I have until I can find a keyboard that doesn’t allow for any welcome of LLMs.

Eh, certainly not for me given the accommodation for offline LLMs, even if it isn’t on by default and you need an API key…I just don’t want a keyboard that caters to that slop. It’s a red flag to me, I said what I said!

If you really want to change the state of things, there are more effective uses of your time to achieve that end than moaning about it on the internet. You might ask ChatGPT how you can achieve your goals more effectively. I wouldn’t take the responses as marching orders, but you might be surprised if you actually think about the effort vs efficacy ratio of your options.

Yeah, no, I just collaborate with other people outside of this conversation and work towards properly making corporations less foul. I am not just idly complaining on the internet. ROFL Asking a fucking unintelligent thing on how to solve problems that humans can solve is INSANE. I won’t be doing that, I will be sticking to my collaborative efforts with groups that are working towards that end. This is a human problem with human solutions, thanks. I think you are a little too into the random outputs of programs to be trusted on anything, really.

That ends this conversation, have a good day.

Huh, I found some useful alternatives on that list in case I needed a hardened anti-AI distro. Garuda Linux, they do not use AI at the moment but they also don’t have a firm policy yet either. Thankfully, they haven’t made this list, which is a good thing as most of them are pretty annoyed with AI. There are only some slop herders in the ranks but they seem to use it for personal stuff.

As Forrest says: stupid is as stupid does.

Which is why there needs to be a set of standards to prevent such lapses of judgement from ever being greenlight in the first place. As CEOs aren’t programmers, they aren’t really doing anything much beyond handling certain aspects of the business, certainly not producing the actual product.

many things over the years. Speaking of a role better suited to an LLM…

Meh, or just fire all the idiots and don’t let people fail upwards…LLMs aren’t sentient, they can’t take the role of a human nor accept responsibility when things go wrong.

Here I diverge from your thinking.

LLMs are just a faster way of being deskilled as by design, the corporations have designed them to be relied upon and utilized by people. To act like a crutch, I seem to remember Sam Altman wanting to make intelligence like any other utility like power and water that you pay for. This is baked into the chatbot aspect of LLMs that are pushed to everyday users and corporate facing ones as well. If one gets a promotion and isn’t involved in the work as much, but still needs to be aware of the trends in the field, they can still get educated in current changes and recertified in the field. Keeping in touch with that knowledge base, or even better trust your fucking experts and ask them for their opinions. Verify what they say against what you know and what the current tendency or SOP is.

The need for skills remains, and I doubt computer coding knowledge will be vanishing just because it’s gotten easier to do it faster and better than ever before

Once again, the problem is that things like Claude and ChatGPT aren’t simple tools, it is also a political narrative as well, designed to enable mass disenfranchisement of skilled people. To channel skill into the hands of the wealthy and wealth out of the hands of the skilled. More now that ever, it is important to learn, remain hand-coding as much as humanly possible, to not give into the use of said creations by the Nerd Reich. It is good that they forgot that documentation exists and can be preserved for people that are against their works.

More recently, I did a fairly sizeable project in Python with Claude

There is so much in the following paragraphs that not only caused me to be unimpressed, but also deeply disappointed, I can’t address all of that.

Actually, they are. They are a teeming horde of individual profit driven entities who might not be able to afford an education otherwise. One might even extend that analogy to Anthropic and friends, where it was more realistic for them to ask forgiveness / restitution rather than permission. Illegal, yes. But would staying legal have been the right move?

I will never give a corporation an inch, as they will steal a mile. Staying legal would’ve been the best thing, it would’ve made the optics a lot better for Anthropic. Corporations are regulated for a reason because they can LITERALLY throw their weight around and it matters that they stay above board as much as possible. Giving them even the smallest room or benefit of the doubt to act illegally is an insane take. I am glad they got punished at least. That is a rare thing these days, as so many corpos and CEOs dodge responsibility. I still think students are never going to approach the absolute spending power and influence that a corporation can reach; that is a scale that an individual might never reach in their lifetime unless they are born into wealth. Or get lucky in the financial rat race.

No matter what happens in November, I still wonder about the future of the US, and the world.

I can certainly agree with you on that because everything is looking so shaky because we haven’t rioted like the French do, on a scale that can absolutely terrify ever single politician in power. To make them get on their fucking knees and beg for mercy.

That ability to see the patterns in language, particularly the ability to distill semantic meaning and make (reasonable, if imperfect) translations from one language to a variety of others, is incredibly useful in software development activities, which are basically the task of translating natural language requests into code - usually through a multi-step process of: requirements definition, design specification, application development, test development, and constant review to ensure that all those steps are in-sync, describing the same thing.

It’s just being used out of scope and big corporations are trying to replace their entire staff with just LLMs, which cannot write code, maintain code, and update it properly without a person being involved to audit it. The Luddite in me screams for some sanity in the space. The least offensive use is finding bugs, but humans need to fully investigate and verify if the LLM detected an anomaly or not, publishing a fix based on human written code alone from there. The LLM cannot be involved further at that point, as deskilling is an ever-present danger with those things. As the only way for these things to actually create code is to be trained on the works of humans (which is often stolen without permission by scrapers or harvested because fools willingly use LLMs for some strange reason). As LLMs cannot think, feel, or have a spark of creativity. These are just programs that detect patterns can be made to spit them out. But CEOs have been brainwashed into believing that LLMs can be considered an “AI” and the big corpos have done a good job of deceiving these overcompensated idiots with window dressing, snake oil, smoke&mirrors. I think the root of my problems lay here and why I am so hostile to them. Perhaps, if humans used them sanely, it wouldn’t be so bad.

Always.

At least we can agree on that.

I’m tempted to make a “better buggy whip maker” crack here…

I think there were some strong efforts on the front of Python to make programming more accessible as they are one of the most detailed and documented langauges out there. While base C; hey expected people to create their own shit using the base principles of the C language to create their own custom modules and shit. Other modern derivatives of C have done a better job of making the language accessible to new learners, showing off the power of the language and what you can do when you learn the language that machines understand.

Yeah, so Anthropic didn’t pay for legitimate textbooks when they went to school, they bought cheap, illegal, Asian photocopies instead… wrong, sure. How do you make it right now? Lobotomize the students who read illegally copied books? Fine their parents for everything they are worth? Or, hold the students liable and garnish their wages in perpetuity?

The consequences have already been decided for Anthropic which is a profit motivated corporation that knowingly did a bad thing that they shouldn’t have done, if I remember right the fine was $1.5 billion dollars. That money would be distributed to the affected authors who filed the claim with the courts. People who share textbooks, buy cheap ones…These students aren’t a profit driven entity, they are people who are being nickled and dimed for a costly education that is likely to make their living conditions a lot better. Sure, pirated materials aren’t legal, but those materials being shared amongst groups of college students who are looking to get educated and elevate their minds, I feel this is a lesser evil. Plus, it would be absolutely eye-watering expensive to even begin to track and punish such a smaller offense among everyday citizens. It’s honestly easier to hold a corporation accountable in this instance.

Yep…

Trump and Co are acting pretty nervous so I hope people show the fuck up and do what needs to be done, as it has to happen. Otherwise, I wonder about the future of America…

Unsurprisingly, he is part of the Nerd Riech, fascists love desensitization of violence…And directing people to commit acts of violence against those they deem the enemy.

Just spreading their bullshit and fear mongering without critique is doing PR work for Anthropic, to be honest I don’t believe a single word of what this company says. They are so full of shit.

Keep it up. I’m in Floriduh so talking to our representatives is more or less like talking to a brick wall. They may accumulate counts of how many people raise an issue, but for the most part they’re serving the federal administration’s agenda, not listening to their constituents.

Yeah, I live in a mostly Red, with Blue islands…So I understand this. Making myself a pest, at least some of the more toxic privacy bills haven’t passed. Still, it’s annoying that this is an ongoing fight.

Keep dreaming. It would be a wonderful world, but it’s far from where we are.

Clearly, that requires work, consumer rights is an uphill struggle because the capitalists have created an environment that benefits them and directly disadvantages us the consumer.

Yeah, if your models are giving you inexpertly crafted code…

I just feel that LLMs should be used for their original purpose: Processing language, not used to generate code. Coding should stay a human activity. Instead of wasting time and money training models to the point that the providers of LLMs are in economic danger; perhaps continuing to invest in humans, teaching the craft in ways that help get new programmers up to speed faster. Would be a better use of time and energy, in my opinion. As I said, I am very dismissive of “AI” and believe the craft of programming/creativity be in the hands of human beings. Unlike the peddlers of LLMs, who wish to channel skill into the hands of the wealthy and wealth away from those who have skill.

Like English majors can quote Keats after graduation… I’m not sure that’s proof of plagarism in their other writing.

I was tired, when I wrote this response, so what I mean to mention how Anthropic literally trained on copyrighted material without permission and could be prompted to produce author’s material. It’s a bit different than a Student quoting an author.

Yeah, it’s been an interesting ride this cycle - seems like they’re trying to tear down the government institutions in preparation for something like Palpatine disbanding the Senate… destroy all confidence by blowing up every problem of the past and flaunting it as something actively done at the highest levels. If they succeed in holding power through the upcoming mid-terms the ride is only going to get more interesting…

I think that the sloshing power that people realize is within our hands can be utilized/weaponized by voting, making proper choices that will disturb the current dynamic which current dynamic which empowers the Trump administration. I will be voting in my interests by choosing Blue candidates as it will upset the power balance. The bots have been out in force trying to convince both sides are bad, but clearly one side is truly worse than the others. So…We shall see how that pans out.

Ah, so happy for them, filing for bankruptcy is such a good look for them! I can’t wait to see a lot of the other services start to domino fall. Go AI, go broke as all the knowledgeable people say. ROFLMAO

Yeah, personal data has in fact been abused for years, it’s just getting worse though…With all the latest breaches that have leaked a lot of shit. It’s why I am constantly fighting all the bad bills whenever they are being talked about, making sure I am a pest to my representatives. Making sure my voice and opinion are loud and clear, also making sure others speak up too. That makes a difference. We just have to fight harder for more bills with teeth and consequences for the various entities that handle data and let it spill. Like actual business ending fines and real punishments. Setting actual standards that are sane, secure, can be optimized and built upon.

That code is still suspect to me, as random code generators aren’t known for creating maintainable code…People have to audit that shit to make it serviceable, which greats bigger workloads. Breaking the spirit of mostly volunteers with such inexpertly crafted code is just not the best idea.

Yeah, Trainers do act badly because they weren’t regulated to hell and back early on…With clear and decisive lines that shouldn’t be crossed. With rules that needed to be followed, people paid for their data or compensated for hammering personal websites. A lot of the data gets data laundered and put in training sets, but can be found in models, said models can be made to reproduce phrases. It’s honestly nasty work, that should’ve never been allowed to get out of control like it has. However, it was doomed to be this way because an absolute morally compromised fool is sitting in the White House so the major US creatures…Are going to get away with a lot for as long as possible. As for other countries, well, they don’t seem too keen on regulating so called “AI” as much as they should be. They are coo coo for corporate lies.

Wow, a rare sane take from LinkedIn.

Yeah, but you are still relying on models that are going to go up in smoke when the bubble fucking crashes. As people are rightfully hesitant to pay the real price for these things, these things are controlled by mega-corps which is ultimately a bad thing because a centralized authority sets the terms of engagement with their services. They are the ones actively scraping open source projects so much that it acts as a DDoS attack, hovering up personal data of other people as if it were candy. Not to mention the other effects it is having on jobs, AI systems being central to massive data breaches, etc. A few positives don’t outweigh the massive negatives that come with the technology.

Honestly, his mind and the community is probably one of the best things out there at the moment. They live the Linux Kernel, while that thing he used does not think or understand anything. Eh, it would be better if they moved with care instead, as that is a good way to avoid bugs too. I don’t have a lot of faith in gassed up LLMs.

LOL Consoles are too expensive, and this is the find out stage of their fuck around journey. Its not all that surprising, especially with the ending of physical games on Sony’s part and Microsoft being generally shitty… They might not recover for a while. Bully for them!

Meh, its less exciting whenever Claude Code is involved; I am wondering how many undetected bugs will sneak into the kernel. If he was going to use an LLM, he could at least use something local and not connected to one of the many nasty big corps that are ruining shit.